>I  am not sure how Obama will
> support the scientific community other than getting out of the
> business of trying to make scientific reports match political agendas.
> I suspect his economic social and foreign policy initiatives to get us
> back on track will force science budgets to the back burner.

One of the most promising things I've heard during this campaign was in a 
question session that Obama did with reporters after a speech somewhere in the 
midwest (I think).  He has been a supporter of corn based fuels, and he was 
asked about new studies that show that the processes may not be so 
environmentally friendly after all.  Obama's answer was, if the science shows 
us there's a problem, we need to change our policy.  Wow.  That alone is almost 
enough to get my support.

Olin

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: John Garcia<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion<mailto:[email protected]> 
  Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 10:57 AM
  Subject: Re: Brin: What's in the works?


  On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 11:54 AM, Chris Frandsen <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

  > John, if you look to at what Jimmy Carter tried to tell us before his
  > last failed election run against Reagan and compare it to where we are
  > today you might reconsider his position in history.
  >
  > A friend Andrew Bacevich addresses some of this in his new book, The
  > Limits of Power.(shameless plug for Skip)
  > You might want to watch the discussion on Bill Moyer's Journal
  > 
http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/08152008/watch.html<http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/08152008/watch.html>
  >
  > I totally agree with Olin's comments.  I am not sure how Obama will
  > support the scientific community other than getting out of the
  > business of trying to make scientific reports match political agendas.
  > I suspect his economic social and foreign policy initiatives to get us
  > back on track will force science budgets to the back burner.
  >
  > Chris Frandsen
  > Remember Remember 4 November!
  >
  > <snippage>


  I do remember Jimmy Carter, even voted for him in 1976 and 1980. Also
  watched what
  Andrew Bacevich had to say on Bill Moyers (Brian Lehrer on WNYC also
  interviewed
  him. You can download it here:
  
http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/2008/08/20<http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/2008/08/20>)

  Carter was correct when he said that we were living beyond our means. Too
  bad we
  didn't want to hear it.

  john
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