On 21 Aug 2008, at 16:19, Bruce Bostwick wrote:

> I haven't weighed in on this yet because I'm sort of a newbie on this
> list, and there's probably history to this that I'm missing, but I'm
> very familiar with lists where I'm not especailly interested in  (or
> necessarily agree with) every post I get on every list.  Some are
> offensive, some are annoying, some I'm just not interested in, and I
> tune them out.  I'm used to doing that, it's no big deal.

Exactly. There are thousands of posts I haven't read on this list.  
There used to be some posters that I pretty much never read anything  
by but they aren't here any more. Nick's complaint is that because he  
is a list moderator he has to read all the posts. I guess that's just  
the price that comes with that job.

>
>
> As far as this particular subject goes, I'm probably at least as anti-
> religion as William, as far as my perception and opinions are
> concerned.  My opposition to religion is probably much more specific,
> as I've learned a great deal about the more socially damaging elements
> of organized religion and can name names and make pretty accurate
> guesses as to where the bodies are buried, but I tend to find anti-
> religious posts comforting rather than offensive, because they tell me
> someone is actually paying attention and noticing that there's
> something rotten in Denmark, so to speak.  Long posts that are mostly
> quoted content from other sources, maybe, maybe not, that's more of a
> technical rule, but the overall tone not only doesn't bother me, I
> welcome it.

I like to see posts denouncing the pernicious poisonous filth of  
religion too. I find posts about prayer and faith and suchlike  
offensive and repulsive and feel that opposing views deserve equal  
consideration.

>
>
> I find the meta-discussion considerably more distracting than the
> discussion itself, because the meta-discussion brings the question
> into play of silencing a contributor to the discussion, and that
> *always* involves some question of whether that person is being
> silenced for purely procedural reasons, which may be legitimate in
> some cases, or if the person is being silenced because the owner or
> moderator *personally* finds the subject matter of the discussion
> offensive, which is a more serious concern for me because it begins to
> hint at censorship, which I personally find far more offensive than
> specific points of view on organized religion.  William's objection
> seems to be that the decision to moderate him is coming at a point in
> the discussion that suggests the decision to moderate him is
> influenced by a disagreement with the subject matter as much as any
> technical or procedural reasons, if I understand his comments
> correctly.  If true, that's a very serious (and IMHO legitimate)
> concern that should be addressed by this meta-discussion if it
> continues.

There are no 'technical or procedural' reasons for objecting to my  
posts on the matter of religion: it's an attempt by some to silence  
the expression of views they don't like plain and simple.

Pernicious Maru


-- 
William T Goodall
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I think a case can be made that faith is one of the world's great  
evils, comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to eradicate. -  
Richard Dawkins



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