On May 21, 2008, at 5:45 AM, William T Goodall wrote: > On 21 May 2008, at 08:19, Max Battcher wrote: > >> >> Of course, I didn't realize that Jon was using Safari and I know >> nothing about Safari other than the opinion that I don't think that >> I like it. > > It's based on Webkit and the Webkit and Firefox developers have a > friendly rivalry about being fastest and most standards-compliant.
I don't use Safari much, because Web sites viewed on it look like Web sites viewed on Safari, not like the designer necessarily intended, which is important to me because my living is based on browsers just rendering _correctly_ and not having their own damn opinions. Apple steadfastly insists that form elements must be rendered as Mac OS X controls, which completely ruin the look of some Web pages. I am a complete Apple Whore, but even I know that this is the height of Apple's famous arrogance. On the other hand, Safari (and the underlying Webkit) are so amazingly standards-compliant that I am tempted... >>> I did not find anything about IE that would help anybody, under >>> any circumstances. As a Web developer, I believe that Microsoft >>> should be fined many hundreds of billions of dollars for all the >>> Web developers' and end-users' time that their turd-in-the-punch- >>> bowl of a browser has wasted. >> >> Microsoft was fined billions of dollars for IE, if you think that >> most of the anti-trust case revolved around IE (it sort of did). > > Not enough obviously. As evidenced by the continued existence of Microsoft. >> Up until the Vimperator discovery I was (by choice) using IE8 more >> and more often in Windows. I found that it was sometimes more >> responsive than Firefox, at least on Windows, and it isn't all >> bad. I would absolutely use IE8 before I ever touched Safari on >> Windows. With as bad as Quicktime and iTunes run on Windows I >> can't even imagine attempting Safari. >> >> Supposedly IE9 will be standards-tastic and may offer some healthy >> competition to the rest of the pack. Take no thought for IE9: sufficient unto IE8 is the evil thereof. Every iteration of IE is a fresh abomination with whole _new_ set of incompatibilities that I and my team can waste our time writing around! Dave Compatibility Mode My Aching Ass Maru _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
