On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:

> At 09:27 PM Sunday 9/30/2007, Julia Thompson wrote:
>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007, Ronn! Blankenship wrote:
>>> At 08:49 PM Sunday 9/30/2007, Julia Thompson wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 30 Sep 2007, jon louis mann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> http://www.europastation.com/gary/pictures/
>>>>> No one wants an unattended child anywhere near
>
>
>
> Another sentence which many people would strongly suggest should end
> with a full stop at that point. :P
>
>
>
>> espresso, and this
>>>>> seems to be an effective way to prevent that.
>>>>> Julia
>>>>>
>>>>> wouldn't caffeine have the opposite effect on a child?
>>>>> jon
>>>>
>>>> You don't know until you try, it will depend on the individual child.
>>>>
>>>> Same as with Benadryl.  (Never, ever drug your child on a plane
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Many people would suggest putting a period/full stop at this point in
>>> the sentence.  Or perhaps 3 words earlier (at least not except the
>>> advice and supervision of a physician).
>>
>> You're right, but that doesn't stop people from asking folks other than
>> their physician.  And the "Don't do it unless you already know the
>> results!" is a good tip for *anything* you do with a child while
>> travelling.
>>
>> And there was some article brought to my attention not too long ago
>> regarding a flight attendant that suggested to a woman that she give her
>> child Benadryl.  Had lots of people fuming over that one.  Lecturing the
>> flight attendant on that sort of thing might get you removed from the
>> plane....
>>
>>> (Somewhat related:  Did you happen to see tonight's episode of
>> "60 Minutes"?)
>>
>> Television?  No.  I don't think I've seen anything that wasn't either
>> Weather Channel (or local weather loop), PBS or Noggin for about the past
>> 3 weeks.  No, wait, there was that Mythbusters episode....
>>
>>         Julia
>>
>> who hasn't ever given Benadryl for a trip, but too many times for ant
>> bites and wasp stings (and that one scorpion sting, ow)
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>
> In today's news:
>
>
> Makers pull cold medicines sold for infants
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/10/11/infant.drugs/index.html?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail
> <http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/10/11/infant.drugs/index.html?imw=Y&iref=mpstoryemail>
>
>
> <excerpt>
>
> "After reviewing reports of side effects over the last four decades,
> the FDA found 54 child fatalities from over-the-counter decongestant 
> medicines.
>
> The agency found 69 reports of children's deaths connected with
> antihistamines, which are used to treat runny noses."
>
> </excerpt>
>
>
> (1)  That averages to approximately 3 deaths per year.  While any
> preventable death is a tragedy, particularly for the family, istm
> that there are other things which result in significantly more than
> three innocent people dying each year which are not being
> recalled/banned, voluntarily or otherwise.

Banning liquid Benadryl to give children having allergic reactions in 
emergencies will result in a lot more deaths than that.

> (2)  I wonder how many of the deaths and non-fatal overdoses may have
> been from parents or other "care"givers doing what was described in
> the earlier portion of this thread:  giving them cold medicine
> primarily to take advantage of its sedating side effects to quiet the
> kids for whatever reason.

If you need the kid to be quiet, have a room "childproofed" for the child 
in question (a young enough child will be fine in a properly safe crib), 
put the child in that room, take deep breaths for a few minutes and then 
go back to the child.

> (Combining the above:  I wonder how many fatalities per year result
> from "shaken baby syndrome," which apparently is frequently triggered
> by wanting the kid to stop crying and be quiet.  Is it more than 3 annually?)

I believe so.  I believe it's more than 3 annually in Texas.  I'd have to 
check on that, though.

Yes.

http://www.dontshake.com/

In America every year an estimated 1,200 - 1,400 children are shaken for 
whom treatment is sought. Of these tiny victims, 25 -30% die as a result 
of their injuries.

That's significantly more than 3.

        Julia

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