> sorry, dan, that is a right wing myth!~) do you really think > everything the us spends of weapons is reported too the GAO, or > anywhere else for that matter?
the illegal sales of billions of dollars worth of weapons involves a lot of logistics that would be essentially impossible to keep secret. (snip) >arms dealing is a global phenomenon, think of it as >private enterprise in action. It is possible for companies to violate US laws. (but not easy) without anybody noticing strains credibility. That's what you're arguing, right? (snip) not only that. you might want to order, "the iran/contra affair" from netflix. a dear friend of mine, barbara trent, was nominated for best documentary academy award. there are many ways nations assist allies, or the enemy of their enemy. not only with intel, but other ways to acquire weapons systems, covert and overt. why do you think israel has survived this long? what do you think north korea is up to in syria? the us is arming the insurgency right now in iraq, indirectly, but they are not the only source. we did the same thing in afghanistan, it's called blowback. the old days when the cia got away with assassination attempts, etc., are over, but there are still operations that have not been exposed. i have been in seven wars, as a non combatant, and know people involved in more overt operations. i will cite one example; i was in tchad in 1979. the us and the soviet union both worked through surrogates in the civil war there. france was helping out the president and libya was helping out the defense minister. the whole deal there was over uranium deposits in the north. it is not just the u.s. iran is supplying i.e.ds. but we can't prove it. france and germany didn't want us to invade iraq for a lot of reasons, including oil. saddam was preparing to convert to euros instead of dollars. http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Iraq/Iraq_dollar_vs_euro.html there are so many reasons why nations (and corporations) interfere in other nations' internal affairs. one of the reasons ghwb started the gulf war was because of the s&l scandal. http://www.users.qwest.net/~mbenjamin4/mypages/thoughts/gulfwar2.html nixon lied about war before and during watergate, but the military would not go along when he tried to escalate tension with the soviet union. http://www.thefreelibrary.com/From+Watergate+to+downing+street%3a+lying+for+war-a0133755141 btw, what do you think about hired guns like blackwater? we were more involved in the iran/iraq war than you think. we worked through our arab allies that didn't want a shiite crescent. we supplied intel as well, like we did for the british and many other "police" interventionist actions. kuwait was giving saddam assistance and then wanted him to pay for it, so they slant drilled into iraq. american ambassador april glaspie gave saddam a green light. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_war these are not super secret reasons and i do not rule out the obvious ones. it is true that it is getting more difficult to intervene, but every country has to look out for their interests, even the u.s. we are not the only country in the world that is trying to protect or extend its sphere of influence. we just happen to be the most successful at achieving global hegemony. china will pass us, eventually, and they are far more dastardly. jon m. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Pinpoint customers who are looking for what you sell. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/ _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
