At 12:56 PM Monday 6/4/2007, Alberto Monteiro wrote:
>*** Heroes - with spoilers ***



Which still beats a Hero sandwich with spoiled meat . . .



>Robert Seeberger wrote:
> >
> >>> More detail. I pretty much knew all these spoilers before I saw the
> >>> episodes and/or figured the course of things out beforehand.
> >>
> >> It was a surprise to see George Takei as Hiro's father... Even
> >> though it seems he's a minor character.
> >
> > I believe he or his character is coming back next season. Perhaps
> > not so minor in the overall mythos.
> >
>Will there be a next season? I thought the 1st was all that was
>there to watch.



Watch the last few minutes again and note the 
title on the screen at the beginning of the scene 
in the 1600s.  Or just look at NBC's announced fall schedule.



> >> And reading things in the Internet is a _very_ bad idea if you
> >> want to watch a show. I was looking for data on episodes I had
> >> missed, and I learned that the cheerleader was the daughter
> >> of the flying man - information that comes from Ep 13!
> >
> > Spoilers don't bother me too much. I'm usually thinking about how
> > Hiro's power works and the implications. When I watch an episode
> > where I know some of what is to come, I am looking for clues to what
> > will come beyond what I am seeing now. Kring and co have given us a
> > very fun game in this.
> >
>Kring?
>
> > Now when Nathan was revealed to be Claires bio-father I was pissed.
> > It seemed to me to be a pointless, soap-operaish plot point.
> >
>It would be a cliché if _Sylar_ was Claire's bio-father :-)
>
> > But
> > there was some redemption in later drama that stemmed from the
> > revelation that *did* expand and advance the story. I just dislike
> > the idea that everyone is related to everyone else in some kind of
> > shipper fantasy.
> >
>Maybe this could be a "logical" explanation for the superpowers.
>All of them are children or grand-children of Hiro, who
>travelled back in time and fathered the first generation of
>supermen. Hiro would be his own grand-father, like Futurama's Fry.



What do Lonzo and Oscar sound like translated into Japanese?



> >> Of course my two favourite characters are Hiro Nakamura
> >> and the cheerleader.
> >
> > Same here. I think the best thing about the show is the expansive
> > cast. East Asians, South Asians, Carribeans....the show is more like
> > the world than any other fiction on American television. Next year
> > they will have Hispanics!<G>
> >
>I like the japanese speaking Japanese, instead of japanese speaking
>English with a japanese accent when they are supposed to be speaking
>Japanese.
>
>In this we should praise Mel Gibson: 5 years ago, nobody would
>dare to put any other language,



How did _Star Trek: The Motion Picture_ open in 1979?



>  but after the success of
>The Passion of the Christ, we have to see people speaking their
>own languages.
>
> >
> >> Tom Orley's "powers" are nowhere near the demigods of Heroes.
> >
> > Bah!
> > Most of the powers are not all that special and would not allow any
> > individual to dominate large numbers of people.
> >
>Hiro: can go back in time and kill your grandfather. He is by
>far the most powerful of all
>
>Cheerleader: no big deal, even to defend herself her power is useless
>(Sylar would have killed her anyway)
>
>Nathan the flying man: no big deal, great for escaping
>
>Haitian: this is a *huge* power. He could dominate anyone, just by
>turning them into mindless drones
>
>The one with the persuasion power: another *huge* power. It was
>stupid to let herself be killed by Sylar
>
>Peter: alone, he is useless. But if he can recolled the other people's
>powers, he is invincible
>
>and so on. Half of them _could_ dominate a large number of people.
>
> > While the "Heroes"
> > are a bit flashy, the majority of them are not much different than
> > Orley. Outside of Peter and Sylar, Orley could likey whoop most of
> > them.
> >
>No, he couldn't. He wouldn't even get close to most of them.
>
> > Orley is definately smarter than any of them. I believe Orleys
> > intelligence accounts for a great deal.
> >
>Bah. In a world with superheroes, Orley would be the _villain_ :-P
>
> > I would also note that HRG
> > (Noah Bennet) has no powers but has been on top of the empowered
> > individuals almost all the series.
> >
>Yes, and it makes no sense that Sylar didn't kill him (ok, Sylar
>was mad, he only killed supermen, but then why he would kill
>Noah's wife?)
>
> >> Zane? I don't remember this name (BTW, I can hardly remeber the
> >> names of them all - better be Hiro-like and call them
> >> by the superpowers).
> >
> > Zane could make metals turn into a liquid form without using heat.
> >
>This is a huge destructive power!



Frex, put him at the WTC . . .


-- Ronn!  :)



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