--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I can see no obvious correlation between civilizations that
collapse
> >> and
> >> civilizations that are highly religious. One could just as easily
> >> ask "Was their Polynesianness integral to their collapse?" (You may
> >> be
> >> offended, but is it any more offensive than asking if religion was
> >> integral to their collapse?)
> >>
> >> Another, much more logical question, would be: "was memorial
building
> >> integral to their collapse?" In this case, one might connect
> >> America's penchant for Memorial building to the Easter Islanders'
> >> proclivity for the same.
> >
> > I can only suppose that their religiosity was a factor contributing
to
> > their use of such a large fraction of their resources for the
> > construction of moai.
>
> <snip>
>
> Good post, Rich, thanks for the info. I'd like to point out, though,
that
> I cited not just religion but religious fanatasizm in my original
post.


I hesitate to write the following, as while I have been thinking about
this post for some time, the recent thread on "religion" makes this post
somewhat dangerous.   So I'll just say up front that I am not going to
get involved in an atheism vs. religion discussion....

I'm curious as to why you make a decision between their "religiosity"
and their "religious fanatacism."   Isn't the use of the word
"fanatacism" simply a way of trying to distinguish "their religion" from
"our religion."   For example, is there really any difference between
the building of the moai and the building of Christian Cathedrals -
undertakings which often took generations?    Was the building of
Christian Cathedrals an example of Christian "fanatcism"?

JDG









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