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> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:08 PM
> To: Killer Bs Discussion
> Subject: Re: Wealthy couples travel to U.S. to choose baby's sex
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> And are there any acceptable exceptions? Like danger to the mother's
> health? For the doctor *is* bound to consider his patient's well-being
> first, and the unborn baby hasn't hired the doctor...
> 
> Also, once, if, the abortion rates go down, who does what to ensure that
> the unwanted born babies are nurtured properly?

Well, the unwanted ones could be humanely killed after 10 days, like the
ASPCA does. 

Now, I know that's a sarcastic...but the sarcasm wasn't really aimed at you.
The purpose of it is to illustrate how different fundamental assumptions
result in different reasonable statements.  Reason allows us to develop
theorems from axioms.  It can also show inconsistencies between different
axioms.  But, we cannot distinguish between self-consistent axiom sets by
logic alone.  One needs an outside reference.

So, I don't think it is helpful to make arguments based on one's own axiom
set and then expect them to sound "reasonable" to someone who holds a
different axiom set.  What we can do is look at the consequences of various
definitions.  I'll give an off the wall example.  If one defines humans as
the literate animal, and that one must be literate to be human, than it is
not murder to kill anyone who cannot read and write....for whatever reason.
I'd bet dollars to donuts that no one on this list believes this, but I hope
it illustrates the idea.


Dan M.


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