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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Deborah Harrell
> Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 5:08 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Drug patents
> 
> Dan asked me a ways back about who held the most
> patents on new drugs: here is why I do not believe
> that drug companies are the primary source of
> innovation.
> 
> There is an article in the WSJ today about a lawsuit
> between Eli Lilly vs 2 former NIH researchers;  I do
> not have it on-line, and the site below has to do with
> an earlier lawsuit involving the same drug.

I read through your examples, and I see a rather different pattern than you
do.  I think we have different understandings of the nature of purpose of
patents and the way they have been used as a means to foster private
innovation.  

For an invention to be patented, it has to include a novelty.  This novelty
can be dependant on earlier novelties.  For example, my patented techniques
for density logging with scintillation detectors require that the technique
for high temperature scintillation detectors already be established.  One
buys the detectors from a company that holds patents on them, and goes on.
The fact that a new design is dependant on what has already been done does
not preclude patentability.  

This is true even if it is dependant on work that has been patented.  The
rules are that all known prior art must be given in the patent application.
If there is novelty shown, then that novelty can be patented.  For example,
let's say a new technique for developing solar panels has been patented.
The technique is promising, but expensive.  Another company sees this work,
and develops a technique for cutting costs 75%.  It can patent that
technique.

If both techniques are required for inexpensive production, as I am
assuming, than anyone who manufactures these panels inexpensively must make
arrangement with both patent holders.  The first company can make panels on
its own, without coming to an agreement with the second company...but these
panels cannot use the technique that cuts costs.  The second company cannot
manufacture panels without dealing with the first company.

Further, if a third company comes up with a different technique for making
the panels inexpensively, then it can ignore the second company's patent,
but not the first.  Broad patents that are hard to work around are very
important to companies.

There are certain limits that are already set on what can be claimed as
intellectual property.  For example, the techniques I developed and patented
while I worked at my previous company are owned by them....that's part of a
standard employment agreement.  I cannot use those techniques at a new
company without some agreement in place between my new company and my former
company.

However, what I learned during the time I worked for the previous company is
my own.  My previous company cannot own the knowledge of physics,
engineering, technique, etc. that I have in my head.  Even if I was taught
that by an expert in the field, the knowledge I have is owned by me.  If I
come up with a new technique that is clearly based on the knowledge I had
acquired earlier, if that technique is considered novel, when compared to
the literature, then I can still patent it.

If this were not true, then both productivity and employability would
suffer.  A company could ensure that no employee could take a job offer
elsewhere.  Even if they fired the employee, they could ensure that she'd
have to switch fields in order to work again....because they owned what was
in her head.  They can, however, own specific techniques, even if they have
not patented them.  These are referred to as "trade secrets."  

The dividing line is not a clear bright line, and is very much open to
interpretation.  Since there can be _a lot_ of money on the line, it can be
quite contentious with lotsa lawyers on each side.  Unfortunately, the
people who decide usually do not possess "ordinary skill in the art", so
mistakes are often made in this process.

So, having said all that, let's go back to your examples.  I see them as
fights over just how broadly one must interpret prior art.  The first
example is a fight over whether the patented technique was dependant on
specific techniques developed 10 years earlier or if it was only dependant
on knowledge obtained then.  Another discussed what happens when virtually
equivalent patents are filed and accepted, based on separate work and
different techniques.

I want to spend a bit of time on the article on a patent dispute from your
San Diego source.  Let me quote a couple of bits:

<quote>
The question the Supreme Court is wrestling with is when it is permissible
for drug researchers to use a breakthrough that has been patented by someone
else. 

If the court recognizes a fairly broad right to do so under federal law,
patents developed by biotech companies could lose value and significantly
crimp the $26 billion research industry, legal experts said. A ruling
strictly protecting the patents could discourage research into new drugs or
halt it in some cases, pharmaceutical companies argue. 

"The fallout is going to be highly dependent on exactly what the court
does," said John Van Amsterdam, an attorney in Boston who specializes in
biotechnology and pharmaceutical patents and is not involved in the case. 
<end quote>

To me, this illustrates just how much can be riding on the breadth of
existing patents.  If the court goes hard one way or the other, it will
either lower the value of present and future patents, discouraging research;
or it will make it much harder to come up with novelty (limiting research).

There is an out suggested at the bottom of the article:

<quote>
"In terms of a life or death thing, it's definitely bigger for the small
biotechs," he said. "Some of them may find some significant difficulties if
the case goes the wrong way. Whereas for big (pharmaceutical companies),
they'd have to pay a little more for using a particular patented discovery. 

"If you compare the amount of money that it would cost them to fair and
square pay for the use of certain things, it's probably a very, very small
amount compared to the rest of the drug development process."
<end quote>

Some form of license for using earlier broad techniques seems fairly
reasonable here.  It would reward research into broad new fields, without
prohibiting people from coming up with innovations that are not so broad.

Let me give an example of this.  I will use hypotheticals that may not be
realistic, but I think you will get the idea.

Let's say that researches have found a certain reaction in the body that is
associated with MS. That's promising, but it isn't anywhere near a cure.  It
does, however, point to a potential area of future research.

Researchers at company A use this information in their work, and develop a
drug that delays the progress of MS significantly.  Unfortunately, the drug
causes stomach ulcers in a number of patients.  Still, for some people, the
ulcers are a reasonable tradeoff and they take the drug.

Researchers at company B see the drug and its potential from the patent, and
note its side effects.  They work a few years and come up with a variation
that reduces both the severity and frequency of ulcers significantly.

My argument is that the government should be funding basic research, and
that a good set of patent laws would reward both Company A and Company B for
their efforts.  Finding that line can be hard.  But, it is defiantly
worthwhile.

One final point:  In my example, both Company A and Company B were engaged
in drug discovery as well as drug development.  The fact that a new
innovation is based on knowledge of an older one does not stop it from being
an innovation.

Dan M. 


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