Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
> After a lengthy period of isolation, though, why should all of their
> artifacts look exactly like those found in contemporary North
> America?  Even on Earth, you can tell a difference between the
> scenery, the clothing, etc., when you travel to Europe, Asia, 
> Africa,
> . . ., even after centuries of contact and trade.

I don't think that is a fair comparison really. On Earth, cultures 
developed in relative isolation for very long periods of time but are 
now becoming more and more monocultural as time passes.
What is seen on BSG is a vast monoculture (for the greatest part the 
12 colonies are almost identical) defined and evolving from its 
colonial origins.
To some extent this development should parallel the development of the 
only example of "cities carved out of virgin wilderness" we have more 
than any examples we have of cities built on top of ancient cities as 
seen in our eastern hemisphere.

How long does it take to fully develop a planetary colony?
(I see evidence that the colonial planets are not fully developed and 
populated, and the total population of the entire polity is small 
multiples of earths population. Remember that 40 years in the past, 
the cylons had almost wiped out colonial civilisation.)
This is a central question.

How many different ways are there to transport garbage on a planet 
that is not fully populated? (All the evidence I've seen from the 
series points to the colonies being having much smaller populations 
than Earth [correct me if I'm wrong], and my speculation is that these 
are originally colonies *from* Earth since all the evidence shows that 
humans evolved here *first* and then emigrated, hence the lower 
populations.)
This is a central question.



>Why should the
> people on a planet where the people have not had contact with Earth
> in so long that no one from either world knows of the other world
> except as an ancient legend just happen to wear suits and ties that
> look exactly like what some people on Earth wear, when styles in
> other parts of Earth and little more than a century ago in the parts
> of Earth where they are worn today look so different?
>

See above.

Of course there is another argument to be made.
When you watch a biography of say...George Washingtons life, do you 
expect the actor to look *exactly* like George Washington? To sound 
exactly like George Washington? To *be* an exact copy of George 
Washington?
Of course not!
The actor is supposed to convey the *idea* of George Washington.
In that sense, a terrestrial dumpster is supposed to convey the *idea* 
of a *pretend-makebelieve-doesn'texistintherealworld* dumpster.

And yet another argument.
If someone finds a dumpster jarring in a scene on "pretend-Caprica", 
yet is not jarred by vehicles, asphalt, and average everyday 
warehouses also seen in the background, then ones 
suspension-of-disbelief is awfully selective.
I'm pretty sure I know which scene Warren is speaking of and it reeked 
of "ordinaryness of setting in turbulent times" which I wouldn't doubt 
was intentional.

Then too, my line of work brings me into contact with dumpsters on a 
regular and daily basis. Dumpsters are cheap, functional, and 
effective, and come in a variety of styles.
I think you have to argue/show that there is a vastly different way to 
design dumpsters of equal or better utility that look nothing like 
"our" dumpsters in order to advance an argument that the BSG dumpsters 
are some sort of spatial twonky.

Query: Are the events of BSG contemporary with *us* *now*?

xponent
Space Garbage Maru
rob 


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