Mathew,
Given the topics covered I'm going on my merry way knowing you disputed
very little of what I put forth. As I find my morning unexpectedly
free of responsibility I can turn some attention to this and I'll
respond to what you deemed worthy.
On Oct 2, 2005, at 11:22 AM, Matthew and Julie Bos wrote:
On 10/2/05 2:46 AM, "Gibson Jonathan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Excuse me, but what about this Davis Bacon wage act is racist?
Just what is your definition of racism?
The American middle class didn't grow large until wage/union rules
were
enacted under the New Deal. In case you haven't paid attention there
are a heck-o-lot more po' white folk in America than po' black folk
affected by this law - and all of them need to work.
Why don't you ask the people who live in the areas affected in the
last LA
riots? You could have helped out a lot of unemployed people out by
paying
them 8 bucks an hour to learn how to frame a wall or run wire. They
might
even learn a trade. Making people pay somebody 23 bucks to figure out
if he
can use a hammer doesn't make much sense either.
Are you just trying to change the subject?
Paying those people to learn a craft would have ben a nice thing - but
Bush Sr wasn't so concerned about job training, was he? His wife's
recent comments about black refugees having it so much better in the
Houston Astrodome than leaving behind their families and community in a
catastrophe is but another exclamation point on the topic.
"The hand that rocks the cradle..."
A Page From The Republican Book Of Virtues:
Yeah, learn something... as in Minister w/o Portfolio Bennet should
have said EDUCATION last week where he said ABORTION, thusly:
"...But, I do know that it’s true that if you wanted to reduce
crime, you could — if that were your sole purpose, you could EDUCATE
every black baby in this country, and your crime rate would go down."
The truth is there is more white crime than black, but blacks ARE
sentenced much more often and harshly than whites for the SAME crimes
for lots of reasons I don't need to go into here - or do I?
Maybe 23 dollars an hour is a living wage our so-called Free Market
advocates are unwilling to allow. The hidden hand of the market works
in wondrous ways, heh?
H-e-l-l-o, consumer confidence at 15-yr low now and societal
leadership
is rudderless.
I don't look to Government for societal leadership. And thanks for the
useless factiod.
Well, I don't expect much out of this bunch either.
As a weather vane of political thinking it IS instructive and the
closest thing Consumer/Citizen {I get them so-o-o confused around
Bushies} can do to vote No Confidence until elections roll around.
As the collective embodiment of America - assuming a good clear day
with the precepts of our Constitution and Bill of Rights in mind - our
government IS us. For good and often bad.
You came on strong all full of opinion, so I don't mind rolling up my
sleeves here and entering this swinging. I call a spade a spade when
I
see it, and sorry, you are wrong on a number of fronts. You appear
ready to drag America back to some Dickens' world of Have Nots -v-
Have
Lots, as though the work of the Greatest Generation should be
dismantled as the oldest of them watch. There's a way to show honor
to
those who "saved the world" from Nazi's, heh?
Have Republicans no shame?
I have never let this so-called conservative noise-making go
unanswered
when I'm out and about and I see no reason to let such sociopathic
philosophy spread further unchecked. Please reconsider your stance
and
evaluate the RESULTANTS of what you see around you instead of the
slogans people SAY - we may have more common ground than first
appearance.
You are nothing more than slogan. Do a five minute google search on
the
history of DBA and how it came into existence. If I want to hear more
useless crap I will read Free Republic or Democratic Underground.
Slogans... hmmm. The pot calling the kettle black here. Still beating
your wife?
I worked these thoughts up myself by using a study of history, my own
experience and rubbing brain cells together. Your the one with
flippant short non-answers on this. Care to elaborate?
BTW - I only peer into those Left & Right public stoning jamborees on
occasion and unlike the hyperbole you try painting me with I have facts
behind conviction and not just hot air.
We need more skilled labor in this country, but I don't know the best
way to
get it. We need to make things in this country again, and keep the
knowledge here. It takes generations to build up the knowledge base
required for innovation and leadership. We are gladly pissing it away
for
some reason. There is more than enough blame to go around.
Let me guess: you're one of those
'pull-yerselves-up-by-the-bootstraps' crowd that inherited most of
your
money: yes-or-no?
Nope, and it is a sad world of stereotypes you live in.
Well ... when people assume the worst archetypes {not necessarily you
here} and respond to the crudest hind-brain insults I hear out of
people aping Rush & Savage on the construction site as well as the
country club I think it's all too appropriate to talk in short-hand.
But a 'world of stereotypes', I think not. I assess people by what
they say and do. Answering you in-depth is part of this.
My favorite tool is a Stilleto Ruger Titanium 14oz hammer when I'm not
mudding sheetrock or laying clear-water method ceramic tile. I'd
shovel shite to keep my family going ... what's your cred?
I have been on Brin-L for close to 9 years. I started this list making
$5.70 and hour washing dishes in a nursing home. And now as a
engineer, I
think I even work harder than I did back then.
Favorite tool? Porter-Cable reciprocating saw with a Lennox 12 inch
carbide
tipped fire and rescue blade. To paraphrase the movie "Johnny
Dangerously"
This thing can cut through schools...
Matthew Bos
Fair enough.
I'd add a laser sight on my hammer if I could.
I think you are somewhat correct on the history of DB you've answered
elsewhere, but the conservatives DID fight it's enactment and as unions
were pretty much white-only back then you score partial points.
Successive court and legal battles have since made it egalitarian and
worthy of retaining now.
Once more into the breech, How does depressing the wages of a
recovering community help them rebuild their lives?
We really may only be arguing style over substance.
- Jonathan -
www.formandfunction.com/word
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