On Jun 20, 2005, at 7:28 PM, John D. Giorgis wrote:

An interesting tidbit was passed along to me today that bears repeating in
light of our most recent list discussion on the subject....

Rehnquist, in his dissent from the Roe vs. Wade nooted that the Court must
be wrong to find any basis for this right in the 14th Amendment to the
Constitution, for the simple reason, as he explains, that at least 36 laws
enacted by state or territorial  legislatures were in force at the time
that the 14th Amendment was adopted in 1868.

If you feel Rehnquist is correct, how is the Supreme Court justified in finding that states which have legalized "medical" marijuana usage are in violation of the law?

Moreover,  some 21 of these
laws were still in effect when Roe vs. Wade was decided. How, then, could
they
be at odds with the 14th Amendment?

Hmm, did you read the rest of the text of the court's decision? It seems that your question is answered there, answered quite eloquently and at length.

In the words of Justice Rehnquist, "To
reach its result, the Court necessarily has had to find within the scope of the Fourteenth Amendment a right that was apparently completely unknown to
the drafters of the Amendment."

So your point seems to be that the Constitution is a document that can be interpreted in a variety of ways, some of which may not have been the intentions of the framers.

That should hardly be surprising; the Constitution is flexible. After all, protecting pornography as free speech was surely not in the minds of the founders with Amendment I; protecting the right to own assault weapons was surely not in the minds of the founders when they ratified Amendment II. And I'm quite sure that the preamble of the Declaration of Independence, when it states in part that "...all men are created equal", didn't take slaves into account at the time, and might or might not have slighted women deliberately. That passage has also been reinterpreted with time and a broadening of perspective.

As the majority opinion points out, there's no evidence at all to suppose that the drafters of Amendment XIV even had fetuses in mind when they were writing about due process, so while your point is valid to that extent, arguing from Rehnquist's perspective (as I suggested above) is not. The fact is that federal law *always* trumps that of the states. That isn't even an amendment; it's written right into the body of the Constitution.

One of the specific points addressed in this decision was who or what qualifies as a "person" and can therefore be allowed or denied due process under Amendment XIV. The evidence seems to support the conclusion that at the time the amendment was ratified, fetuses were *not* considered "persons" at all, *regardless of how far in the pregnancy the mother was*. Thus if we were to try, as you seem to be suggesting, to return to the "original" idea of Amendment XIV, abortion would be legal on demand right until the baby began to crown. That can't be what you want, can it?

When states appear to subvert federal law (as was argued of Texas in this decision), questions of constitutionality must be decided. The courts are there to determine how to interpret our laws, and it's foolish to assert that any law, as written, is meant to be interpreted in one way only in perpetuity. There's a 200-year-long historical precedent that utterly abnegates such a view.


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Warren Ockrassa, Publisher/Editor, nightwares Books
http://books.nightwares.com/
Current work in progress "The Seven-Year Mirror"
http://www.nightwares.com/books/ockrassa/Flat_Out.pdf

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