----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Robert Seeberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[email protected]>
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 12:25 PM
Subject: Re: Gulags


> Ronn!Blankenship wrote:
> > At 11:31 PM Friday 6/10/2005, Dan Minette wrote:
> >
> >
> >> 2) The treatment of prisoners in our regular prisons.  Prison rape
> >> is
> >> winked at by government officials on both sides of the aisle.
> >> There
> >> is no national outrage concerning this.  You may think it is an
> >> outrage, as do others of us on this list, but it really is off the
> >> radar.
> >
> >
> > In fact, the whole topic is treated as fodder by comedians.  And
> > many
> > otherwise reasonable people think it is no worse than many of them
> > deserve, especially those convicted of rape or child abuse.
> >
>
> Ahhh....so let Joe Bob Redneck be the standard by which our moral
> compass is set?

Part of the problem is that people who should be considered much more
refined are saying that.

> I find it disappointing in the extreme that people are abandoning
> morality, ethics, and the rule of law in favor of excusing the kinds
> of things that they know are absolutely wrong. "It happens all the
> time" arguments don't impress me.

I certainly wasn't making excuses for things I consider wrong. To me
questions about whether something is one of the worst threats ever to our
constitutional rights are different from questions concerning whether
something is right or wrong.  I do consider how we handle normal prisoners
a greater moral outrage than how we handled Gitmo....and I'm prepared to
argue why.  But, I never mean to imply that, because I can show that that A
is worse than B,  that B becomes acceptable.

Dan M.


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