On 5/5/05, Erik Reuter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> * Robert J. Chassell ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> 
> > Erik Reuter's point does come into play. But I am puzzled by his
> > restatement of it on 4 May 2005:
> >
> > Unfortunately, the overall market is only growing at 6% a year and
> > now that the company has monopolized the market and implemented
> > most of the cost savings and efficiency improvements possible,
> > earnings only grow at 6% a year. The investors who extrapolated
> > the 30% per year forward take a bath. Doh!
> >
> > We are not talking about filling up a market niche, we are talking
> > about creating many new niches.
> 
> Please pay attention to what I wrote. The point is that it is foolish
> to take a portion of a historical record and extrapolate that portion
> over an extended period unless you have evidence that the portion of the
> historical record you are extrapolating can be sustained for an extended
> period of time. As I wrote, there are a great number of examples where
> this is not the case. I gave some examples.
> 
> > Or do you think that the economy
> > really is zero sum, and that it is impossible to increase it by much?
> 
> Don't be absurd. Any fool can see the economy is positive sum. It has
> been growing about 3% real per year averaged over the past 200 hundred
> years.
> 
> > Erik, are you suggesting that median per capta income cannot ever grow
> > to be 3.5 times higher than it is now?
> 
> No, of course not. I don't see why this is so difficult.
> 
> You are suggesting that the economy can grow at 5.1% real per year
> over an extended period of time if the Democrats were in power for an
> extended period of time. This idea is hardly supported by the data you
> are using -- you are extrapolating far in excess of the historical data.
> 
> In fact, if you can find a single economist who thinks that a developed
> economy can grow at a real 5.1% per year for 70 years, I would be very
> surprised.
> 
> > If so, what limits the economy?
> 
> I don't know of a limit on the total GDP, but the growth of GDP is
> considered to have a limit by virtually all economists. If productivity
> grows at 2% per year and working population grows at 1% per year (and
> hours worked per person is constant), then GDP grows at 3% per year.
> 
> What causes productivity growth? Capital deepening (i.e., more machines
> per worker, better equipment, etc.) and more skilled (or more efficient)
> workers.
> 
> Can the US sustain a 4.1% per year productivity growth rate and a 1%
> per year working population growth rate for 70 years if Democrats are
> continuously in power? The data cannot answer, since we don't have a
> historical record of 70 years of continuous Democrat rule. But it seems
> unlikely. No developed country in the world has ever even approached
> that high a rate for an extended period of time. Certainly the US hasn't
> at any time over the past 200 years, despite the huge advances such as
> invention of the railroad, telegraph, electricity, telephone, production
> line, automobile, airplane, robot, computer, etc. Over that time the US
> averaged only a bit over 3% real GDP growth rate.
> 
> So you are saying the poor performance under GOP leadership is a necessary 
breather in terms of economic growth?

I wonder how long the Asian tiger record of economic growth can be 
continued?

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Gary Denton
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