Dan Minette
> From: "Andrew Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Removing Dictators Re: Peaceful change L3
> 
> 
> 
> >And why isn't the US invading North Korea?
> >Why is it, as you put it "doing nothing"?
> 
> As JDG said, the answer to that is fairly straightforward.  South
Korea
> begged Clinton not to.  Even before they had nuclear weapons, the
> proximity
> of Seoul to the border, and the training of mutiple (10k)
guns/morters on
> Seoul by North Korea would result in massive casualties.  While there
is
> little doubt that the US and South Korea would quickly win any war
with
> North Korea, it wouldn't be quick enough to prevent 100,000-200,000
> deaths.
> That was an overwhelming price to pay, and Clinton decided to accept
the
> half a loaf solution with a verifyable freeze on plutonium extraction
and
> production from the known nuclear reactor.
> 
> JDG called this a failure, pointing out that other secret facilities
were
> built and that N. Korea probably already had enough material for 1 or
2
> more bombs.  I differ with that assessemnt.  As it stood, N. Korea had
the
> ability to kill 100k-200k without nuclear weapons.  This was the
> functional
> equivalant of roughly 2-3 atomic bombs of the caliber that N. Korea
would
> have.  If the US attacked, it was considered very likely that N. Korea
> would counterattack.
> 
> Not making a partial deal and not attacking would leave the status quo
in
> place.  N. Korea had just extracted fuel rods that could be used for
~6
> more weapons.  They were also working on a large reactor that, by
about
> 1998, woiuld be able to produce enough plutonium for about 40-50
> bombs/years.
>

Dan, it was a rhetorical question. I know why he isn't, and frankly very
glad he isn't. But thank you for the refresher. I must learn to put more
umm, nuance in my typing tone.
 
> 
> >Poor George, no wonder he looks tired, tossing all night, crying over
> >the starving Koreans kiddies etc...
> 
> What I don't understand is, given that I'm pretty sure I already
mentioned
> this to you in an earlier discussion, why you don't consider any
answer
> but
> Bush is a bad boy.  Did you ask yourself "what are the differences
between
> N. Korea and Iraq?"  "Is there any difference in the estimated number
of
> civilian casualties in each war?"
> 

I was not saying that Bush is a bad boy. I was expressing my disbelief
that he can probably walk on water, and then turn it into wine. He is
the President of the USA, and not a very gentle or non-confrontational
one at that.  I have no problem with Bush being able to do good things,
or the USA doing good things. I just don't accept that _everything_ he
and/or America does shines with a golden light from on high. Apparently
that means I am a child torturing Stalinist, and one with few manners at
that. 

Andrew


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