----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Horn, John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2004 6:59 PM
Subject: RE: "God Is With Us" L3


> Behalf Of Gautam Mukunda

> something along the lines of
> (I'm not using quotation marks because I don't have
> the exact words):
>
> Don't misunderstand me, I was in Kuwait during the
> >Iraqi invasion and I saw the hospital where the Iraqis
>> stole incubators for premature babies.  Saddam Hussein
>> was a monster and anyone who was there at the time
>> knew it and thought he had to go.

>There is a huge difference between stealing incubators (however
>tragic that might be) and "leaving babies to die on the cold, cold
>floor".  This statement doesn't even imply that babies were left to
>die on the floor, which is what caused the outrage at the time.

I think that is a critical unspoken disagreement, going back through the
thread. There is a good reason that the infant mortality rate in Iraq was
higher than it was in Kuwait in 1991....standard care was at a far lower
level.  If the incubators are gone, premature babies who need them die. I
thought the essence of the question was whether incubators needed by
premature infants were stolen, so premature infants died; not the details
of the theft.  Others may have thought the details (like leaving the babies
on the floor instead of with a nurse) were essential.

Dan M.



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