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From: "Julia Thompson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: Disturbing evidence of torture


> Mike Lee wrote:
>
> > What our MPs did to those prisoners in Iraq sucked. Whether it
technically
> > violated the conventions, I don't know or care. I'm proud of how the
Bushies
> > have sucked it up and taken their lumps. No, they haven't been perfect.
Bush
> > didn't say the A-word timely. Rumsfeld was a little defensive the first
time
> > he was confronted about it. But what the Chappaquiddick Kid did today
was
> > beyond shameful, and Rumsfeld was spot on, only losing his temper at
> > stupidity a couple of times today. If you think the dog and pony show
that
> > went on today is going to play well with the voters, please keep
thinking
> > that. As a great man once said, Bring it on!

> I missed what happened today.  What did Kennedy do?

Not really all that much...he speachifed through much of his
questioning...as did some of the Republicans.  There were a handful on both
sides who did this, but I thought that most actually asked questions...see
my list of questions.

There were a few critical things that came out today I think.  The most
important is that there is a pile of radioactive documentation on this
which will make what we've seen so far tame.  Rumsfeld seemed genuinely
shaken by this. One Republican Senator said the worst may be yet to come.
I cannot imagine the story dying while there are all sorts of known
unknowns about what happened.

A second critical thing is that, although the initial report details
tremendous problems with MI, the investigation into MI only started in the
last 10 days or so.  What were they thinking?

The third critical thing was the fact that the Red Cross report detailed at
least some of these abuses well before the Army report came out.  Anyone in
the chain of command who read that report should have had their hair on
fire. Why they didn't is very disturbing.

I'm starting to put together a tentative picture of what happened, and it
isn't pretty.  Everything indicates that this will be a summer long story,
coming out in dribs and drabs every few days.  As Dee Dee Myers said, the
best thing is for all the bad stuff to come out as soon as possible, so we
can start on the clean up, but I don't think it will happen.



Dan M.


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