> Richard Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Debbi said:

[somebody asked] 
> >>> But what if I don't believe in God?
[I think Kneem responded] 
> >> That means you are above average in intelligence
> and education.
 
> > My M.D. and my well-above-average IQ (even after a
> > significant closed head injury) disagree with your
> > supposition.
 
> Of course, if A implies B that doesn't necessarily
> mean that B also
> implies A, which means that you don't disprove the
> Fool's position. To
> disprove it, you'd have to find an atheist who
> wasn't above average in
> intelligence and education.

Of the 'believers' on this List, I suspect all have an
above-average IQ (of course, I think _everyone_ here
is above average in the brain category -- else they'd
not be brinellers in the first place).  Yet I am
responding not only to this particular statement, but
the totality of Kneem's opinions on 'the religious'
(although he does not acknowledge a difference between
the thoughtful believer and the unquestioning fanatic
-- rather as if I said, "Atheists are a bunch of
antisocial, ugly loud-mouths - just look at that
Madalyn Murray O'Hair!").  To say that his on-list
statements are, without exception, "unfavorable" is an
understatement.  Nor did I attempt to "disprove" a
hypothesis, I merely disagreed with a supposition - or
opinion, if you prefer.  
 
> Rich, who is pedantic this evening for some reason.

Well, _I'm_ feeling a bit snippy myself, but that's
probably residual from the GI bug that kept me
house-bound earlier this week.  :P  But you guys
managed to have a nicely parsed discussion anyway. 
';)

Conducting a proper randomly-selected,
population-based study would answer the question 'do
atheists have higher IQs and a higher level of
education than non-atheists?'  However the two
criteria are somewhat interconnected, in that a person
with an IQ of 70, frex, isn't going to be getting a
post-doc.  Agnostics ought to be included as well, for
completeness.

FWIW, *all* of my friends - devout believers,
indifferent, uncertain, or determinedly atheist - are
smart, funny and Just Good Folks.  ;)

Debbi
'Lake Woebegone, where all the men are handsome, the
women are strong, and the children are above average.'
(as best I recall, per Garrison Keillor, to round out
others' snippets on this)  :D

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