--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Jim Sharkey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Jan Coffey wrote:
> >Of course right now, people are taking temp work for 60 or 70, 
but 
> >you can't live on that here. You couldn't even pay for shelter 
and 
> >food for a family of 3 on that, much less have traspertation to 
and 
> >from work. Non-skilled labor like washing toilets is 60.
> 
> WTF???  Are you *seriously* asserting that $60,000 a year is not 
enough to live on?  Where do you live, in King Midas' realm?
> 
> Jim
> Making slightly more than that in NJ and doing fine with a family 
of five Maru

I know for a fact that the guy who cleans the toilets at my wife's 
office makes 60. the guy who pics up my trash makes over 60. A prep 
cook at SUN makes 60. The train conductor for the call-train makes 
60, the security guard at the exploratorium makes 60. I know them 
all personaly, and I also know they all have 2 jobs. The Bay Area is 
EXPENSIVE to live in. I get squat compared to what most developers 
have been makeing here, but I don't mind so much becouse I live 
close to work, and my wife is a developer as well, we don't plan on 
having kids, which is a good thing becouse most of the people I know 
who did got their jobs axed, went bankrupt, moved back in with their 
parents, divorced. Lack of a reasonable income for your location can 
have that effect on a relationship.


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