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Press Briefing by Scott McClellan: Q Scott, on the day's other big
announcement, four years ago, in the South Carolina primary debate, the
President was asked, "So if a state were voting on gay marriage, you
would suggest to that state not to approve it?" And the response of the
President was, "The state can do what they want to do." When did the
President change his mind that the issue of gay marriage was not a matter
for states and, in fact, was a federal issue?

MR. McCLELLAN: John, the President has always firmly believed that
marriage is a sacred institution between a man and a woman. He has always
held that view. And I think what you're referring to is that the
President has talked about how states have the right to enter into their
own legal arrangements. And that's what the President is referring to.

Q The words in the question were "gay marriage," and I do realize that
the President has opposed gay marriage, but when did he --

MR. McCLELLAN: The President's view was very well-known during the
campaign of 2000, that he believes marriage is a sacred institution. And
he supported efforts to protect and defend the sanctity of marriage.

Q Which is what I just said. But my question was, to go to the actual
substance of my question, was, when did the President change his mind
that this was not an issue for states and, in fact, was a federal issue?

MR. McCLELLAN: Again, I dispute the premise of your question. His views
have always been well-known on this very issue.

Q Yes, but he always described it as a state issue. Now he's describing
it as a federal issue. When did he change his mind?

MR. MCCLELLAN: No, no, he said that states have the right to enter into
their own legal arrangements. 

Go ahead, Terry.

Q Scott, is this an issue that the President wants to raise in the
campaign and try to draw a distinction with Senator Kerry, who opposes a
constitutional amendment?

MR. McCLELLAN: Terry, it's an issue of national importance. You heard the
President address that earlier, in his remarks. There is confusion --
growing confusion in this country right now because of this issue. And
that is why we need clarity. The President specifically called for this
debate to be conducted in a civil manner, without bitterness or anger, as
he put it, and with respect for one another. The President recognizes
that an issue of national importance like this requires leadership and
requires a President to make decisions, and then to raise the level of
discourse and have a civil discussion on this issue. And that's what he's
done.

Q Does that mean that he will try to draw a distinction with Senator
Kerry? You know, he said -- the President said last night, it's all about
choices. Is he going to try to say that this is what he chooses, and
here's what I choose?

MR. McCLELLAN: The President is going to continue to fight to protect the
sanctity of marriage. I think you have to look at this in the context of
recent events. We cannot pretend that the events in Massachusetts or San
Francisco are not happening. And that's why the President is providing
leadership, and making a decision based on principle. And he will
continue to talk about the importance of protecting this sacred
institution.

Q Scott, two questions. Just to follow up on John's, he was asked in that
debate specifically about gay marriage, not about states having the right
to form contractual arrangements, domestic partnerships or civil unions.
So did he misspeak, when asked directly about gay marriage, when he
answered, it should be up to the states?

MR. McCLELLAN: What I'm telling you is that the President has always
believed marriage is a sacred institution between a man and a woman; that
it should be an institution that is protected. And that's what the
President has always made very clear. John was talking about a change,
and I don't see that.

Q Well, but in that actual quote he was directly asked, and the words,
"gay marriage" were used in the question to him.

MR. McCLELLAN: No, I think the President's views are very well known, and
they are what they have always been.

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