> -----Original Message----- > From: Gautam Mukunda [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 3:22 PM > To: Killer Bs Discussion > Subject: RE: Tyranny > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > But what civilization is he talking about? It must > > be Western civilization, > > because other civilizations, even today support, and > > make it legally > > possible to participate in other forms of marriage - > > same sex, Polygamy, > > etc. > > > > Nerd From Hell > > 1. What is wrong with Western civilization? We are > members of it. It's a lot better than the > alternatives.
Oh, there is nothing with Western Civilization. I happen to like it a lot. > > 2. What other culture allows same sex marriage? I'm > genuinely curious, not making a rhetorical point. As far as I can track down so far, there are no third world countries that support gay marriage except for Argentina. Asia has a long way to go... There is a lot of misinformation about the subject, and it is even more difficult to track down when doing this at work. However, I did find some references to a few countries. However, overwhelmingly, nearly all cultures, religions and countries do NOT support gay marriages or gay relationships. There are a lot of references to the past, where it seemed as though it was more prevalent and was perhaps better tolerated by some cultures. > Western civilization is, so far as I can tell, almost > uniquely tolerant of homosexuality (as with most other things). http://marriagelaw.cua.edu/religion.htm has good data on the percentages of the world that seem to tolerate legal gay marriage. It does support your suggestion that Western civilization (really the U.S.)is more tolerant. I may be able track down some third world cultures that do support homosexual marriages. My point in my response is the support of alternative marriages like polygamy is prevalent in non-western civilizations, but illegal in the Western World. There is no one definition of Marriage. While one can say there are strong commonalities, the only one I can see, is that is is hetrosexual in nature (with the exception of allowable gay marriage in a few countries). This does not exclude polygamy, which is prevalent in non-western cultures, but now our own. My issue with the President is how he presents the point that marriage is between one man and one woman, and that civilization demands this. I argue that this is not the case world wide, and can only be said western cultures. He's either mean or ignorant on this point. Hey, if homo's can marry, why can't I have 2 wives! Its closer to Bush's definition than gay marriage! Nerd From Hell > > ===== > Gautam Mukunda > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > "Freedom is not free" > http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
