--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> So when Ashcroft and the administration attempt to
> abrogate basic citizens 
> rights that have existed for a long time that is
> "the american way"?  When 
> Ashcroft accuses anyone who disagrees of being
> anti-american, this is the 
> american way? Come on Gautam. As to taxes, 
> this is a economic decision. What 
> does the tax cut have to the american way. As you
> have so eloquently stated, 
> americans can honestly disagree about these issues.
> So why does one side feel 
> it has the right to declare its way the american
> way. 

Bob, we keep running into this.  Just because you
believe something _doesn't mean that it's impossible
to believe something else honestly_.  I don't think
Ashcroft has done any significant abrogation of the
basic rights of citizens, and he has _never_ claimed
that everyone who disagrees with him is un-american. 
That's nothing more than Democratic Party propaganda
created as a smokescreen to disguise the total
ideological bankruptcy of Democratic Party foreign
policy.  It's a lie, pure and simple, that you've
swallowed whole, Bob.  Low taxes _are_ the American
way.  The Boston Tea Party was, after all, a tax
revolt.  So one side gets to make that claim because
there's a lot of historical support _for_ that
argument.  Taxation _isn't_ just an economic argument.
 Sure, there can be pressing reasons for higher taxes.
 But that doesn't mean that, all things being equal,
low taxes are the same as higher taxes.  They aren't. 
Low taxes are preferable to high taxes because low
taxes giving Americans more freedom to do as they
wish.  High taxes erode freedom, low taxes expand
them.

We keep coming back to the same point, over and over
again, Bob.  You're really the perfect liberal :-)  I
don't know any other way to put this.  I've run into
this with people on the left over and over again, and
I've never been able to effectively communicate this
point - it is something that seems to crop up much
more often on the left than the right (not that the
right is immune to it, it's just a lot more common on
the other side of the fence).  People can disagree
with you without being evil.  I can oppose affirmative
action without being a racist and think that
anti-terrorism legislation should be strong and
enforced without wanting to restrict basic rights. 
The difference, Bob, is that I'm not claiming that the
fact that you oppose laws that (I think) are vital to
protecting the US from terrorist attack means that
you're in favor of the terrorists - but that's the
equivalent of what you're doing to people who support
the PATRIOT Act.  I'm willing to acknowledge that
reasonable people can differ on such opinions.

=====
Gautam Mukunda
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
"Freedom is not free"
http://www.mukunda.blogspot.com

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