> From: Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> > > From: Dan Minette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > From: "The Fool" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > > > And pharmacutical corporations are still evil greedy vile money
> > woshiping
> > > > pigs, only developing therapies they can patent.
> > >
> > > You don't think you are evil, right Fool?
> >
> > What is evil?
> >
> > These malicious corporations that could develop all kinds of medical
> > treatments, but instead only develop ones they can patent, are the
true
> > essence of evil.
> 
> Why don't you raise the money to develop one that other people will
make a
> ton of money on, leaving you broke?  Remember when you said people
would
> still develop things if they couldn't patent them?


> Now are you saying they
> won't because its evil?

When did I ever say that?  Let me be clear: Patents are a perversion of
nature, evil, vile, and a corruption of human rights and the market
system.

All Monopolies are evil, and artificial monopolies are the most evil of
all (right up there with Country music on the scale of evil).

You have intertwined your ideology around a fallacy that corporate
propaganda has been poisoning the public with.

If there were no patents companies would still make drugs.  You know why?
 Because it just _so_ easy for their competitors to snap their fingers
and develop the same products without knowing how the original company
made it, what steps were involved what technology was required.  I mean
come on it's just so easy that I could write an emulator for the PS2 in
ten minutes and have it never fail, it is just so easy to figure these
things out.

Competition is almost never a bad thing, certainly not in the market. 
Being forced to compete would ensure that they would produce quality
products that work.  And they wouldn't stop making useful drugs when
patents run out only to replace them with inferior drugs that do the same
thing.

Furthermore I think that some thing are to important to be allowed to be
controlled by corporations.  The Government could develop the
infrastructure to create drugs, even unprofitable drugs, that the market
needs, not drugs that make the most money.

There was a drug one of the drug companies had a patent for.  It was
found to be useful for treating a very specific form of a fatal cancer
that only a few thousand people have.  They sat on it for more than 7
years, doing nothing, because their was 'no market' for it, despite the
fact that it could have been a useful remedy.  It turn out that when they
did test it on the subjects, in a very short period of time the people
who were otherwise dying of this cancer, taking this medicine had tumor
reductions of something like ~90 percent.  
 
> Doesn't this just show that you are wrong about what would happen if
> patents were abolished?

No.

> Out of curiosity, should other companies also give their products away
to
> poor people?

Sure.

> IMHO, what we see here is the tragedy of the commons.  I'm not opposed
to
> taxpayer money being used to develop unpatentable techniques, with the
> government charging any company that uses these techniques a fee.  But,
you
> really can't expect a company to spend money developing something all
of
> its competitors will use for free.

Sure I can.  It worked for 99.999 percent of human history.  When you
raise the tide, all boat float higher.

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