----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Coffey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 3:20 AM Subject: Re: Politics, was [L3] Re: fight the evil of price discrimination
> > --- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Jan Coffey wrote: > > > --- Doug Pensinger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Jan Coffey wrote: > > >> > > >>>statistics gatheing techniqes vary and therefore are not comparable. > > >> > > >>Bullsh*t. Or at least bullsh*t until you provide evidence that the > > >>above is true, or your own statistics that use the same "gathering > > >>techniques" or that make the necessary corrections. > > >> > > >>And even if gathering techniques vary, I doubt they would wipe out a > > >>18% difference. > > > > > > > > > No, it is not my duty to do that study. It is the duty of those making > > the > > > claim to do the study in such a way that there is no other resonable > > > explination for the results. > > > > But you made the claim that an armed society is a polite society. > > You haven't backed up that claim with _any_ statistics or studies. > > > > Until you do provide data, you're claims are bogus. > > > > Sorry I never made that claim. I did not and do not believe that an armed > society would be any more or less "polite". Those are your words. You are > taking the words I say, relating them to a position you know and reaplying > the buzz from that position to what I have said, generalizing to a fault. It > disapoints me to see someone who I respect making this error. > > Further more logic is all that is required for a situation such as this. Data > is only necisary when logic fails, or when one wishes to attempt to debunk a > logical argument. > > If one requests data as a precondition to accept a logical argument then they > are practicing sudo-science. This kind of situation is a beakon for the > scetic. Well, you and I have very different understandings of science. What is your basis for defining science? Logic gets you from A to B. It does not, by itself, allow for any conclusions concerning the emperical world. > The simple truth is that without conceled carry, the only ones with guns are > the criminals. The power of leathal force is in the hands alone of the very > people we would prefer did not have that power. The police have guns. Dan M. _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
