hehehe... Robert, welcome to the Baghdad Bob's of the Brin list club! Your
membership was accepted! Dues are waived.


Chad (who is top posting out of spite!)



>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:35 PM
>To: Killer Bs Discussion
>Subject: Re: Spider space elevator? (was: US-based missiles
>tohaveglobalreach)
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Erik Reuter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Killer Bs Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 9:23 PM
>Subject: Re: Spider space elevator? (was: US-based missiles
>tohaveglobalreach)
>
>
>> On Tue, Jul 08, 2003 at 07:37:35PM -0500, Robert Seeberger wrote:
>>
>> > Pretty much what I said in the last post. The biggest difference
>> > between us is that you seem to take all this discussion very very
>> > seriously as if your self esteem was at stake. I suppose thats why
>> > you seem to want to turn various discussions into "one-ups-manship"
>> > pissing matches.
>>
>> Rob, I said I was done with your part of this thread, but 
>this is rather
>> a different subject and I wanted to let you know why I will 
>be ignoring
>> any of your posts about technical subjects in the future.
>
>Why do you think that anyone would care if you don't feel like 
>talking about
>a particular subject with them?
>
>I thought that kind of self-importance only grew near tulips.
><G>
>
>>
>> Yes, I take technical subjects very seriously.
>
>Sooooo.....elevators and bungee cords are technical subjects.
>
>> I do not like to see
>> incorrect statements about scientific subjects, nor do I like to see
>> quantitative or well-supported arguments contradicted by 
>ambiguities or
>> arm-waving (they should be contradicted by other quantitative methods
>> or by other well-supported arguments).
>>You, on the other hand, appear
>> to make technical statements off-the-cuff without careful 
>consideration
>> of whether they are correct or relevant.
>
>Recall Erik that you ignored completely the existence of the elevator
>control system and never addressed it. Then you give stats for 
>all steel
>cable when the cables used by elevators have a manila rope core.
>So much for your well supported arguments........
>
>> And then you get upset when
>
>No, not at all. Its just a mailing list. I hang out with my 
>friends here and
>talk to them or listen. Its not that big a deal. (Unlike some 
>other events
>in the past that did have me upset.) Don't read to much into 
>it. As far as
>I'm concerned we are talking about ......stuff.
>
>> you get called on them, saying that the discussion is too serious and
>> is being made into a "pissing match".
>
>Serious discussion is fine by me, I was pointing at serious 
>confrontational
>tactics and aggressive behavior. I hope thats clearer.
>
>>Whatever you want to call it,
>> the important thing in a technical discussion is that the correct
>> information is conveyed. Unfortunately, I think that in almost every
>> technical discussion we have had, save one, you have obfuscated the
>> issues rather than clarified them, and I would rather spend my time
>> learning than participating in such useless discussions.
>
>I'm sorry you feel that way. I will agree that there is some lack of
>communication going on or that we are not listening well. But 
>I am trying,
>and I would hope that you would give me the benefit of the 
>doubt when such
>matters arise.
>
>
>>
>> So, that is why I will be ignoring your posts on technical matters in
>> the future. Now I really am done with your part of this thread.
>>
>
>If that's how you feel Erik then I will be OK with that.
>I sense some sort of antagonism from you that I don't feel 
>myself (towards
>you) and I wonder if I have done something that has offended 
>you and made
>you dislike me. It seems to me that you don't have much in the way of
>respect for me and I wonder why.
>For all I know everyone here thinks I'm a nutcase, but are too 
>polite to say
>so.
>
>xponent
>Wondring Aloud Maru
>rob
>
>
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