Damon, Is your last name D*##0^? You sound like DD word for word.
--- Damon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >Can you offer any good talks or documentaries? Reviews even? I don't have
> >time to spend on this topic to read something. I also don't quite
> understand
> >your viewpoint. Are you saying that catholocism didn't stifle "scientific"
> >advancement in the middle ages?
>
> No, what the Fool contended was that the rise of the Papacy and Catholicism
>
> has directly responsible for the "dark ages." My contention is that this is
>
> impossible because a) the Dark Ages did not exist, at least by the pop
> history definitition, b) the power of the catholic church was tenuous at
> best during the Early MA, and it was not until much later (the High MA)
> that the power of the church grew, precisely at the same time Europe was
> experiencing a literary, technological, economic, and social Renaissance of
I think that if we got into specifics that we would disagree, but in
generalizations this fits. Also, I think you are streatching the timelines
and not giving enough credit to the catholic church.
> its own (which was, in fact, the second such development since the end of
> Roman authority in the West).
>
> Some time ago I speculated about the impact of classical learning on the
> development of science in Western civilization. Specifically, I wondered
> whether Greek learning was as much a hindrance as a help to this
> development.
>Along with Greek methodology you also had the baggage of the
> more daft ideas they had.
Word for word "daft ideas" when refering to the greeks. D*##0^ was very
convincing in our 8 hour conversation. Are you the same guy?
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