--- Reggie Bautista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Debbi wrote:

> >Why some people think they have to have exotic
> >animals as pets is beyond me...
> 
> Why?  If you buy into the idea that keeping pets at
> all is ok, then what 
> does it matter whether it's a cat or a prairie dog
> or a horse or a degu? 

I didn't mean to insult anyone here; I should have
said that animals which have been domesticated (dogs,
cats, pigs, goats, chickens, koi etc. - and I even
count the rat lines that have been bred to be docile
and calm around humans) have, in the course of that
domestication, been selected for interaction with and
response to humans.  Many "wild" characteristics, such
as extreme aggression, territoriality, migration etc.
have been modified or bred out over the course of 
multiple generations; those individuals which
exhibited undesirable traits were culled, and likely
not bred.  Domestics can be "pets" because they  are
"primed" to live with us; 'their' nature is now
'ours.'  Many seem even to crave human attention.

Wild animals, OTOH, do not have this in-bred ability
to live and interact with us; their agendas are not
modified for our benefit.  Far too many exotics end up
abandoned, maimed or killed b/c they *cannot* adapt to
our demands.  Frex, apparently young infants smell
rather like baby rabbits, and ferrets - hunters - have
attacked and seriously harmed infants.  It isn't that
the ferret or lion or python is intentionally being
"bad" or mean; it is simply following its nature.

An exotic that has been reared by humans still has its
instincts, but not the training/experience to survive
in the wild; if abandoned, it will most likely starve
or otherwise die shortly thereafter.  

Tropical exotics can carry all sorts of diseases
(partially listed in two articles linked to the one I
posted), and we just don't know enough about how some
pathogens 'jump' from one species to another.  I mean,
who'd have thought that *prairie dogs* would be
susceptible to African *monkeypox*?

Furthermore, the demand for young endangered exotics
(adults are usually completely unsuitable) leads to
the hunting and killing of breeding females (frex
clouded leopards, orangutans), further deleting the
precious wild genepool; and many of those young also
die.

> If you buy pets, you probably buy them based on how
> cute you think they are, 
> how prepared you are to properly care for them,

This is where many fail, as they do not understand
just how profound the differences between a domestic
and a wild animal can be, and what proper care
entails.  Frex, a friend 'inherited' a wolf hybrid
from a prior boyfriend; now 'Allie' is a lovely and
loving creature, but she has never accepted that small
dogs deserve to walk the same earth as herself. 
Despite socialization attempts, obedience schools,
'personal trainers' and punishment for 8 years, she
still lunges after any smaller dog, and if you haven't
properly braced yourself to stop 85# of muscle and
bone when they hit the end of the leash, the 'pinch'
collar won't save that peekapoo.  Or the skin of your
nose, chin and arms as you are dragged down the path. 
That is just one of her quirks which has to be dealt
with on a daily basis.

Zebras are not simply striped horses, but strong and
snap-reflexed animals who 'think of' things that
startle them as hunting lions -- and if they can't do
what they prefer (run away), they are very capable of 
attacking the perceived threat.  Zebras have maimed
and even killed adult lionesses.

For a handgun thread crossover, there is certainly a
'macho' element for some in owning a large exotic (I
don't think that goes for your hedgehogs, however ;}
).
 
> and how much they seem to 
> match your personality.  For some, that might be a
> goldfish.  For others, it 
> might be a hedgehog.  If you accept the idea of
> pets, then who's to say 
> what's too exotic to be a pet (other than for safety
> reasons with large or 
> very dangerous animals like lions or pythons where
> they might pose threat to 
> public safety if they get loose)?

There are some wild animals who could probably be
domesticated in time (frex several small South
American wildcats), and some who are part-way there
already (ferrets, mongooses).

It's sort of an Uplift question, I suppose... :)

Debbi
Finished Ranting For The Moment Maru  ;)

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