On 12 Mar 2003 at 1:25, Jon Gabriel wrote:

> > > >This is *awful*...but good sick gallows humor...
> > > >
> > > >Cowboys and Muslims
> > <snipped joke>
> > 
> > > This was incredibly offensive and not funny for so
> > > many reasons.  :(
> > >
> > > I'm genuinely curious: would you have posted this if
> > > it had a German making
> > > a snide comment about playing a 'wipe out the Jews'
> > > game?
> > 
> > I'm sorry that you were so offended.  It made me laugh
> > out loud and then groan "Oh, that's so bad..." -- I
> > would not have posted it if I thought that gallows
> > humor had no place on the list.
> 
> First off, I don't speak for the list.  I just speak for me.  But if I
> find something offensive I'll usually speak up.  Judging by the
> responses from Kevin and Rob I'm obviously in the offended minority.
> Somehow I doubt either of them had family members thrown in the
> concentration camp ovens and incinerated/cremated while still alive
> and conscious.  In my experience, that sort of thing in a family
> history tends to make one less than amused by jokes about it.

I have (had Jewish family who stayed behind in Europe in the 30's 
when my direct ancestors fled to England) and I found it very 
amusing. Then again, my entire sense of humour is low.

Andy
Dawn Falcon

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