--- Paul Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 11:36:51AM -0800, Gautam
> Mukunda wrote:
> Where were the people now strongly pushing towards
> war that time ago? Trying
> to play the moral card is fraught with problems, not
> least because *nobody
> on either side* really cared until Shrub and Blair
> dragged it up again.
> 
> Note that I'm not saying that's a *good* thing, but
> it is the case. The
> people now strongly in favour of war didn't think
> twice about the Iraqi
> people two years ago; trying to sell the war on that
> front is slightly
> dishonest, IMO.

No, it is entirely honest.  Neither I nor any other
advocate for the war of whom I am aware thinks that
this should be done _solely_ because it would be good
for the people of Iraq.  That's not enough.  But it
would, in fact, be good for the people of Iraq. 
That's virtually indisputable.  If someone claims to
be arguing against the war because they are concerned
about the people of Iraq (which is what most of the
war protesters are claiming to be doing), then it
makes sense to point out that:
1. None of them seemed to care about the people of
Iraq six months ago
2. Being ruled by Saddam Hussein is not, in fact, good
for the people of Iraq
And protesting the war is protesting to keep Saddam
Hussein in power.  There isn't a middle ground
alternative.  It does not exist.  The war happens and
Hussein is overthrown, or it does not and he is not. 
No third choice.

 
> 
> > In this particular case, it is striking that the
> ANSWER marches and
> > rallies are so large, and that the people in them
> vigorously applaud the
> > vilest anti-semitic and anti-American slurs. 
> Doesn't this tell us
> 
> Where on earth did anti-jewishness come into it?
> Which slurs are these that
> you're talking about? (Specific examples would be
> good...)
> 
> -- 
> Paul

How about this, just for a start?
http://www.politicalgenius.com/people/antiwar/hitler3.jpg

When people hold up signs like that, that's telling
you something.

There are an almost infinite number of others, but
that just for a start.

Gautam


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