At 08:13 14-2-2003 -0800, Nick Arnett wrote:
Awwwww... Poor Arnett... Someone refuses to accept his insults and his dictatorial behaviour... Awwwww... <GRIN>> I get this feeling that you are talking about an entirely different Nick > Arnett; the Nick Arnett *I* know has shown himself to have a questionable > character and have a somewhat twisted interpretation of the concepts > "justice" and "right & wrong". And I have the e-mail messages to > back that.... > Then explain how silencing a listmember (by moderation, threats of > moderation, and threats of banishment), refusing to discuss his actions, > and even telling a member "if you even *mention* <this topic> either > on-list or off-list, I will throw you off the list forever" is "defending > himself and the interests of the subscribers". -- Here's what Jeroen is talking about, from January 18th: [This first part is what Jeroen wrote to me] > Put me on moderation again, or ban me completely, and I will > strike back so > hard you will not only regret ever joining Brin-L, you will curse the day > your parents met. I will then strike back with every means at my > disposal, > and I will then not stop till you, your reputation, your career and your > businesses are utterly destroyed. I will accept no more of your abuse of > list-admin powers. It's up to you to decide if you want to see your life > ruined over a (perfectly legal) copyright notice. [My reply] I won't put you on moderation. I will remove you from the list entirely if you don't drop this nonsense now. I am completely serious. If I read about this issue in a single message from you, personal or to the list, you're gone, history. And you won't be welcome back. Start your *own* list if you can't behave like a civilized person. I'm not willing to invest any more of my time and attention dealing with your immature and disruptive tactics. I've put up with your harassment, your illegal attempts to break into my servers, etc. No more.
Of course, what Arnett conveniently "forgets" to mention here is that my warning only came after I had been thoroughly infuriated, as a result of having been attacked, discriminated, insulted and threatened *several times* by him, both on-list and off-list.
Apparently he believes that people should just tolerate all the abusive stuff he throws at them. Well, then he's messing with the wrong guy.
Notice that he even EXPLICITLY told me to NOT discuss the copyright issue ("If I read about this issue in a single message from you, personal or to the list, you're gone, history") and that he threatened to throw me off the list if I would refuse to comply with his demands. Since when does an admin of an (officially *unmoderated*) list have the right to tell a member what topics he can and cannot discuss?
Given the number of threats I have been receiving from you, you're hardly in a position to complain.I decided on January 18th to draw the line, after receiving the threats above. And those, most clearly, are threats.
Not yet. I haven't put all those threats and insults from you on-line yet. But I'm seriously tempted to change that. And since you made an off-list message from me public, you will not be in any position to complain about it.So, now it's all out in the open
Now, of course, if you want to be consistent, you should now unsubscribe yourself (or at least have the other list-admins moderate your posts) for posting an off-list message (from me) on-list.
(Anyone want to take bets on how long it will take Arnett to threaten me with moderation, banishment and/or a lawsuit for those last two paragraphs?)
See, that's exactly what I mean. You haven't discussed anything. By saying "I'm done discussing it" again, you are explicitly *refusing* to discuss your behaviour and your actions.and I'm done discussing it.
Jeroen "Time to take over" van Baardwijk
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