Hi,

On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 20:34, Frank Rowand <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi Heinrich,
>
> On 5/16/20 8:46 AM, Heinrich Schuchardt wrote:
> > On 5/15/20 7:10 AM, François Ozog wrote:
> > <snip>
> >>     Would the topic of dynamic parts of device trees deserve two slides on
> >>     our next meeting?
> >>
> >> This is a key topic that probably deserves more than two slides. Please
> >> prepare a presentation as you deem fit .
> >>
> >
> > You can find my ideas about why device trees are not static here:
> >
> > https://github.com/xypron/dte/blob/master/Device%20Trees%20Are%20Not%20Static.pdf
>
> There is some useful information on what you highlight in the "Conclusion" 
> slide at
> the 2016 Linux Plumbers conference.  The slides that were used in the specific
> session are at:
>
>    https://elinux.org/images/9/99/Dt_hw_config_policy.pdf
>
> The discussion of the slides was captured on etherpad in the section labeled
> "Device Tree: Hardware Description vs. Configuration vs. Policy by Frank 
> Rowand"
> at:
>
>    https://elinux.org/Device_tree_plumbers_2016_etherpad

Good to see these slides, and Heinrich's are a good cover of the
problem I think.

I don't have anything much to say but look forward to the discussion.
It seems that the 'hard line' about describing 'only hardware' in the
DT might be softening, and if so, that it all to the good IMO.

I like the term bootloader as it is well understood and it is what
U-Boot does. 'Firmware' is so generic that it could apply to the
touchscreen firmware. But I suppose I use the term 'firmware' for all
the firmware in the device, including the whole AP firmware image -
bootloader, signatures, binary blobs, etc. Perhaps that is what you
are saying.

Regards,
Simon
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