On Sat, 2011-01-08 at 15:52 +0300, sophie wrote:
> Hi David,
> On 07/01/2011 18:12, David Nelson wrote:
> > Hi guys, :-)
> this is the girl of the story ;)
> > I would like to make a proposal. I consider that the libreoffice.org
> > website is a resource that can be of strategic importance to TDF and
> > the community. I have a bunch of ideas for further developing it and
> > using it to further the project's aims and interests.
> Yes, you're right and it's great to see you enthusiasm !
> > To do that job, I would ask - for a period of 4 months, subsequently
> > renewable on condition of the SC's approval - for complete authority
> > and final veto on all content on the libreoffice.org website. I want
> > to be considered *the boss* of the libreoffice.org website, and my
> > decisions would only be overridden by a majority vote of SC members.
> > Anything short of that, my decision wins.
> Like the others, I don't like the idea of 'complete authority and final 
> veto on all content'. No problem for me to consider you like *the boss* 
> if you prefer to have a title, but we are an open source project and 
> decision process is not working this way.
> I absolutely do not feel comfortable with the SC members voting on each 
> decision, I mean the website team should be able to work and reach a 
> consensus by its own on what should be on line.
> 
> There has been a failure at filling the website content at the 
> beginning. From my side I thought that in front of the emergency, an 
> English native language speaker will wake up and fill it. Ok, that has 
> not work this way this time, but I won't draw a picture with only a 
> piece of it. The website team has to think about it and change his way 
> to work or appeal for collaboration. Like in *any* other part of the 
> project, the collaboration mode is how we work and how we are willing to 
> work. Even if one take the final decision (the one you would call the 
> lead), it's because others have reach an agreement on this final 
> decision. And sometime it takes time (even years), but no matter, we do 
> not have commercial pressure or something like that, we have a community 
> that we want to be happy and for a long time.
> 
> > This would give me the necessary authority to try some imaginative and
> > ambitious plans that I will put to Marketing.
> Like Italo said, there is a marketing project and tasks should be 
> coordinated with it. Also, the website is not only for marketing, it's 
> also for contributors and so it engages much more than marketing.
> Last, I don't see why you need an authority to put your imaginative and 
> ambitious plans on a staging site where it can be reviewed and discussed 
> before being implemented. And I'm really curious to see it soon :-)
> > I would ask for the title of "Executive editor of the libreoffice.org
> > website". The only reason I have for asking for this title is that it
> > gives me a handle to use in relations with outside parties, such as
> > the press.
> Also Italo expertise, here. Currently not every body can speak publicly 
> in the name of TDF (even not me :-), and I think it's good.
> > If you feel able to grant me this trust, you can be sure that I will
> > act responsibly and wisely, and that my sole aim will be to advance
> > and protect the interests of the LibreOffice project and community.
> I won't trust you less if you're not the big boss. You've work on 
> several parts of the project, the work you've done is good and important 
> for our project and you've done it with respect of the community values. 
> This is why I trust you. You have already act responsibly and wisely 
> without having the complete authority and final veto.
> > I believe in teamwork and community-building. I would be keen to
> > listen to and to learn from others, and to take the smartest decisions
> > possible. I would seek to leave behind a positive contribution.
> I believe in your work and what you've done on the website content, also 
> on the documentation project. You have found your place in our project, 
> you are organizing the documentation project and the tool it will use 
> for its workflow, you've work on the website content and want to go on. 
> I'm really happy to have you near me :-) I'll be also really happy to 
> help you work with the others among the design team, the marketing team, 
> the l10n team, etc.
> > Your decision would be sealed by an official vote at the next SC meeting.
> My vote will be -1 because of the reasons above and I join also 
> Christian conclusion.
> 
> But I really don't want you to resign. I would like to offer my help and 
> any time you need to discuss further how we work. Most of us are in open 
> source projects for quite a long time, we have had to learn also, if I 
> can help you, it sincerely will be my pleasure :)
> 
> Kind regards
> Sophie
> 
Hi all,

@David - I've been trying to draft an email on this question also, as
you already know - Sophie just said what I was thinking much better then
I could of.

Thank you

Drew



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