There are different synthesizers that can be used with Orca.  I’m assuming you 
are using a console screen reader such as Speakup, TDSR or Fenrir.  You can’t 
use whatever synthesizer you use with this screen reader with Orca?  I used to 
use Lynx a long time ago.  Then I realized that all of the web sites I 
wanted/needed to use were either impossible or inefficient to use with this 
browser.

Ryan Mann
Certified Assistive Technology Instructional Specialist
rmann0...@gmail.com
386-383-5175


> On Jan 29, 2023, at 5:46 PM, Linux for blind general discussion 
> <blinux-list@redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> Only addressing one point here.
> I cannot use Orca, because the speech synthesis chosen for the program at the 
>  very least causes dizziness for me, and at worse  risks  episodes that 
> mirror those experienced by some  who manage epilepsy.
> You cannot be expert on all the ways  the human body personifies, making such 
>  a blanket statement somewhat concerning.
> How does this differ from those speaking of a blind community?
> as for the  definition of accessible, its a w3c one.  Specifically that tools 
> must be browser device, and user agent agnostic.
> Karen
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sun, 29 Jan 2023, Linux for blind general discussion wrote:
>> 
>> According to Karen
>>> Yes, the new Twitter owner fired the entire accessibility team, but how
>>> are these services defining accessibility?
>> 
>> 
>> First of all, by having API's that allow the applications you choose to 
>> interact with them.
>> 
>> 
>>> by its actual meaning regardless of technology used, works from the
>>> keyboard for  example?
>> 
>> 
>> If that is your definition, there is an application that will fill that need 
>> for you, or you can develop one.
>> 
>> 
>>> You keep speaking of Orca, but what if one cannot, or chooses not to use
>>> Orca at  all?
>> 
>> 
>> Who cannot use Orca? If you choose not to use it, then this is your choice, 
>> but you miss most of the accessibility of the modern web just for starters. 
>> Applications that work with Orca work quite well from the keyboard and don't 
>> need any other input to interact with them. Entirely text-based browsers on 
>> the other hand generally do not take advantage of, nor do they support, 
>> modern web technologies such as HTML5 and accessible JavaScript. They also 
>> lack navigational features available from within modern browsers using Orca, 
>> including but not limited to header/button/link/form field navigation and 
>> lists of same. Keyboard navigation and activation of clickable elements is 
>> also lacking in text-based browsers, making an even larger percentage of 
>> websites inaccessible to them, but not inaccessible to Orca.
>> 
>> 
>>> If the goal are options that lets individuals, regardless of label,
>>> communicate with those they wish, and engage with the world as they
>>> desire, then the access is based on progressive enhancement design, or
>>> should be, not any specific screen reader if that resonates, speaking
>>> personally.
>> 
>> 
>> I'm not catching your meaning here. All the tools I mentioned in my previous 
>> message allow API access, meaning that anything in the world that can be 
>> done from their websites can be done programmatically from an application or 
>> script you can either download from somewhere or develop on your own, up to 
>> and even including registering new accounts, posting, reading any timeline, 
>> sending direct/private messages, etc. Also, if you find something missing or 
>> lacking in any of these, they are all open source/free software, meaning 
>> that you are free to modify them and redistribute your modifications, so you 
>> can add API functions as well. This is as accessible as anything can 
>> possibly be, and is exactly what makes them the best alternative to Twitter, 
>> Facebook, pretty much any other walled garden so-called social network on 
>> the planet that is run by a too-big-to-fail corporate entity.
>> 
>> ~ Kyle
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Blinux-list mailing list
>> Blinux-list@redhat.com
>> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
>> 
>> 
> _______________________________________________
> Blinux-list mailing list
> Blinux-list@redhat.com
> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

_______________________________________________
Blinux-list mailing list
Blinux-list@redhat.com
https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list

Reply via email to