One more, and this is more for Ratpoison/Strychnine users

How would I go about replacing pcmanfm with having DragonFM start? I want it so 
when I hit Ratpoison+F a terminal comes up and starts with DragonFM started. 
I've tried bind f exec /usr/bin/dragonfm (which does nothing) and bind f exec 
/usr/bin/lxterminal&&/usr/bin/dragonfm. I've not tried with just dragonfm for 
that last one however but I made it so dragonFM starts up in my home directory 
each time. Is what I'm after doable with how DragonFM's currently set up? I 
don't see a reason why it wouldn't be possible

On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 06:55:11PM +0200, Linux for blind general discussion 
wrote:
> Howdy,
> 
> glad to hear, so the application was not completely created for trashcan
> then :).
> I figured that tab management was totally broken ( i remember it was the
> part where once I stopped my work). I completed that part now as well. So
> tabs are now working as expected. I also removed a lot of unneeded imports,
> what should make the startup a little bit faster and clean up some nasty
> code.
> 
> let me know when you need something else. I do my very best to improve the
> situation for impaired people on Linux eco system.
> 
> in the meanwhile i continue my rework of orca screen reader to be plugin
> driven :).
> 
> cheers chrys
> 
> Am 11.04.22 um 15:05 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> > All works as expected now and it's made DragonFM a much better program
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 01:48:39PM +0200, Linux for blind general 
> > discussion wrote:
> > > Howdy,
> > > 
> > > // Ah I see what was tripping me up, the hidden things are at the top not
> > > // after the regular files/folders like in GUI clients. I'm unsure if I 
> > > can
> > > // tweak that in the settings.conf or?
> > > i just added this for you. please pull master. there is now a new option 
> > > in
> > > section folder "hiddenFirst".
> > > True = behave just bevore, list hidden files first
> > > False = ignore the first . in the name and just sort the files in order 
> > > with
> > > the non hidden one. this value is the default.
> > > 
> > > i also renamed casesensitive to caseSensitive (capital s for sensitive, to
> > > match the other option names in camelcase)
> > > you need to add those to you settings file in section folder:
> > > caseSensitive=False
> > > hiddenFirst=False
> > > 
> > > // I need to test this on Arch and see if my isue with my laptop of not
> > > // being able to open files now is Solus specific or not, right
> > > // arrow/ctrl+M doesn't work to open up text files with the latest pull, 
> > > it
> > > // does work with other files however and I do hav $editor set up 
> > > properly.
> > > // Is this a Solus isue or something with my .bashrc setup?
> > > Just for your information, ctrl + M is the same like pressing return
> > > (similar to ctrl + h for backspace)
> > > but you are right, i see issue here as well. I broke it by accident while
> > > adding open with :). should be fixed now.
> > > 
> > > Cheers chrys
> > > 
> > > Am 11.04.22 um 10:54 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> > > > Ah I see what was tripping me up, the hidden things are at the top not
> > > > after the regular files/folders like in GUI clients. I'm unsure if I can
> > > > tweak that in the settings.conf or?
> > > > 
> > > > I need to test this on Arch and see if my isue with my laptop of not
> > > > being able to open files now is Solus specific or not, right
> > > > arrow/ctrl+M doesn't work to open up text files with the latest pull, it
> > > > does work with other files however and I do hav $editor set up properly.
> > > > Is this a Solus isue or something with my .bashrc setup?
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon, Apr 11, 2022 at 09:07:28AM +0200, Linux for blind general 
> > > > discussion wrote:
> > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I took a look at your problem. i cannot reproduce this here. I made 
> > > > > some
> > > > > more improvements:
> > > > > 1. I rebound KEY_BACKSPACE to show / hide elements
> > > > > 2. i unbound the conflicting leave_entry command (it was double bound 
> > > > > in any
> > > > > way. Arrow left still invokes the same action)
> > > > > 3. toggle show / hide elements does now show an short message at the
> > > > > notification area to make clear what is actually the case.
> > > > > 4. Home ( Pos 1) and End keys does now work in input box (rename, 
> > > > > open with,
> > > > > location and any other dialog)
> > > > > all that is already in master.
> > > > > 
> > > > > i wrote a short summery at my blog:
> > > > > https://www.patreon.com/posts/64973610
> > > > > 
> > > > > enjoy.
> > > > > 
> > > > > cheers chrys
> > > > > Am 10.04.22 um 17:38 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion:
> > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I will take a look at home.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Cheers chrys
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Von meinem iPhone gesendet
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Am 10.04.2022 um 17:30 schrieb Linux for blind general discussion 
> > > > > > > <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I did.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I put a # before the existing ones and have it set as follows
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > KEY_BACKSPACE=toggle hidden
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > It shows success for every other command but that one however. 
> > > > > > > I'm not
> > > > > > > sure if it's a distro issue with Solus however though but once 
> > > > > > > i'm back
> > > > > > > on my Arch box I can test it there though
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 05:22:41PM +0200, Linux for blind 
> > > > > > > > general discussion wrote:
> > > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Strange i don't see this here.  Here it shows/ hides the folder 
> > > > > > > > / files as expected.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Did you rebind your keys already to something?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Am 10.04.2022 um 16:37 schrieb Linux for blind general 
> > > > > > > > > > discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> > > > > > > > > I've got it saying toggle hidden, but none of the hidden 
> > > > > > > > > files showed up
> > > > > > > > > even after setting it right.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > I made a .test.txt fie in ~/Documents and hit toggle hidden, 
> > > > > > > > > with no
> > > > > > > > > luck. The .test.txt doesn't show up nor do places like 
> > > > > > > > > .config.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Is that a Solus issue? I'm only running into this as my one 
> > > > > > > > > big issue
> > > > > > > > > with DragonFM. I unbound Backspace from history and put it on 
> > > > > > > > > show
> > > > > > > > > hidden instead so I can ctrl+H for hidden toggle
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 03:40:23PM +0200, Linux for blind 
> > > > > > > > > > general discussion wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > A small tip for figure sequences for shortcuts. You can set 
> > > > > > > > > > input=True in debug section of the settings file. Any 
> > > > > > > > > > keypress prints its escape sequence ( and if it triggers an 
> > > > > > > > > > action)  will then printed for a given amount of time in 
> > > > > > > > > > the first line on screen.
> > > > > > > > > > Its very noisy for you but just thought for debug and 
> > > > > > > > > > figure sequences. You can disable it then again.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > By the way, i forgot to answer how to unbind an action: 
> > > > > > > > > > just comment the line in settings file out wit an # as 
> > > > > > > > > > first character per line.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Am 10.04.2022 um 14:57 schrieb Linux for blind general 
> > > > > > > > > > > > discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Well, you can try, but i don’t  think there is an escape 
> > > > > > > > > > > sequence for ctrl + backspace.  I don’t think there is 
> > > > > > > > > > > any escape sequence for modifier key + backspace  
> > > > > > > > > > > combination available.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > I have to say, this concept is an dinosaur that should be 
> > > > > > > > > > > rethought in the 21 century.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Cheers chrys
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Am 10.04.2022 um 14:29 schrieb Linux for blind general 
> > > > > > > > > > > > discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > So wouldd^and then backspace change that to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > ctrl+backspace change that
> > > > > > > > > > > > so control and backspace works for that and ctrl+h does 
> > > > > > > > > > > > hidden files or?
> > > > > > > > > > > > Or do I need to do something like '' to tell DragonFM 
> > > > > > > > > > > > that there's no
> > > > > > > > > > > > key bound for that function or do I just leave that 
> > > > > > > > > > > > blank? I can
> > > > > > > > > > > > probably find something to rebind it to but I'm 
> > > > > > > > > > > > thinking just unbindd
> > > > > > > > > > > > the backspace key?
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 10, 2022 at 02:15:55PM +0200, Linux for 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > blind general discussion wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Howdy,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Well to explain what you see, you need to understand 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > how shortcuts on an command line application work.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The commandline reads any input from STDIN. This is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > also valid for shortcuts. The operating system 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > translates some (not all, depending on terminal 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > capabilities) input to a sequence of ascii codes. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > This sequences are sent to STDIN then.This series 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > starts with an special ascii character, the Escape 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > code. This is why this sequences are named escape 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > sequences. How many escape sequences are „translated“ 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > or „understand“ depends on the used terminal standard 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (TTY uses as far as i know VT100 standard, correct me 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > if i m wrong, terminal emulators can often emulate 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > various kind of standards, depending on the emulator 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and configuration).
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The issue you see here is the fact that some of the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > escape  sequences do not have a printable 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > representation. For this there are various cases 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > where printable sequences defined for the non 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > printable representation. Long thing short: in your 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > case, Ctrl + h is the printable ascii representation 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of backspace. So an command line application can not 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mate a difference between ctrl + h and backspace at 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > all ( so its a limitation of the deeper level of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > terminal and operating system, not an issue of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > dragonFM)
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You can see this in plain bash, vim or nano as well 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (and any oder commandline application)l, type 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > something, press ctrl + h, it behaves like backspace 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and will delete the character left to the cursor.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > See here for a list of (some?) of those „duplicates“.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.ibm.com/docs/en/SSLTBW_2.4.0/com.ibm.zos.v2r4.bpxa400/ks1.htm
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > But like noted, this depends heavily on the Terminal.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry my friend, there is not much i can do here.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > What can we do now?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, all we can do is choosing what is more 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > important for you and rebind backspace 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > „KEY_BACKSPACE“ (what is currently bound to leave 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > entry, wo moves to parent folder) to toggle hidden 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > (and unbind or rebind leave entry then ) or use 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > another shortcut for hidden.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > See here in settings:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > KEY_BACKSPACE=leave_entry
> > > > > > > > > > > > > …
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ^[H=toggle_hidden
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers chrys
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 10.04.2022 um 11:52 schrieb Linux for blind 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > general discussion <blinux-list@redhat.com>:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So quick question Chrys...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm trying to have history switched to ctrl+H on my 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > copy of Dragonfm, to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > line up more with how Nautilus/Caja does it. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > However that shortcut seems
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > hardcoded in with no way to change it in the config 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > file. I'm trying to
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > fix it since alt+H brings up a terminal's help menu 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and I'd like ctrl+H
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to show/hide hidden files since that's a common 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > enough shortcut on
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > desktop file managers so why not have it in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > DragonFM?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So where do I need to look to switch the function 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of ctrl+H in the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > program? Currently it brings up the location bar, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > page 1/2 and doesn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > show or hide hidden folders, instead going back one 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > step despite not
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > being defined as such in the config settings
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
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