depending on the distribution you may need to install orca additively.
On Thu, 7 Apr 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > When did Cinnamon get A11y? > > The narrative I've always heard is oh it has no A11Y by design? > > If that's actually changed recently I may give it a shot on Arch then > > On Wed, Apr 06, 2022 at 05:09:20PM -0400, Linux for blind general discussion > wrote: > > It's getting better and if memory serves is almost up with mate. > > > > > > On Wed, 6 Apr 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > > > > Is Cinnamon as good and accessible as Mate? If thaat's so, it's great > > > then. > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 06, 2022 at 03:17:39PM -0400, Linux for blind general > > > discussion > > > wrote: > > > >Cinnamon would qualify as a desktop and is supposed to be similar to mate > > > >in operation. > > > > > > > > > > > >On Wed, 6 Apr 2022, Linux for blind general discussion wrote: > > > > > > > >> Just pointing out that Ratpoison+Strychnine, IceWm, Openbox and others > > > >> aren't > > > >> exactly full desktops, but are pretty much just the window manager > > > >> side of > > > >> things. A full desktop would include at least one panel with system > > > >> tray/notification area, app indicators such as the battery monitor and > > > >> clock, > > > >> most of the time a file manager that doubles as a root window desktop > > > >> that > > > >> can > > > >> include launchers and mount points and an application menu or some > > > >> other > > > >> type > > > >> of launcher that allows you to see the applications on the system and > > > >> launch > > > >> them, usually grouped into various categories. Strychnine does do some > > > >> of > > > >> this > > > >> for Ratpoison, but it's pretty much just a launcher menu and run window > > > >> type > > > >> of thing. Many components that would make it a full desktop are still > > > >> missing, > > > >> although it is possible to run Caja or Nautilus and possibly either > > > >> mate-panel > > > >> or gnome-panel along with it for a more full desktop experience if > > > >> desired. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> About the best full desktop experience I've used is GNOME 2.x, which is > > > >> continued as the MATE desktop. Some panel applets don't necessarily > > > >> speak > > > >> as > > > >> much as they should, for example, nm-applet, which is the network > > > >> manager, > > > >> only says "panel," but for the most part, everything just works and is > > > >> navigable with only a keyboard, although I find Orca's "speak object > > > >> under > > > >> mouse" to be fairly useful at times as well. GNOME 3.x and 40+ is > > > >> another > > > >> option, but some things seem to be a little less usable than the MATE > > > >> desktop > > > >> overall. KDE is coming along, but is still in the early stages of a11y > > > >> development, so although many things are starting to work pretty well, > > > >> others > > > >> are still not quite usable at this stage. For full desktops, the only > > > >> other > > > >> partially usable options are xfce, lxde and lxqt, and all of those > > > >> seem to > > > >> be > > > >> getting a bit long in the tooth, and some of these are even starting to > > > >> lose > > > >> some of the accessibility they once had. So as full desktops go, my > > > >> three > > > >> best > > > >> recommendations would be MATE, then GNOME, then KDE. And then there > > > >> are the > > > >> window managers that include keyboard navigation, Ratpoison+Strychnine > > > >> probably being the best of those options, although I have heard that > > > >> IceWM, > > > >> Fluxbox and Openbox, as well as possibly i3, can also be made more > > > >> usable > > > >> with > > > >> either helper applications or hand-edited configuration files. > > > >> > > > >> ~Kyle > > > >> > > > >> _______________________________________________ > > > >> Blinux-list mailing list > > > >> Blinux-list@redhat.com > > > >> https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >Blinux-list mailing list > > > >Blinux-list@redhat.com > > > >https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Blinux-list mailing list > > Blinux-list@redhat.com > > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > Blinux-list mailing list > Blinux-list@redhat.com > https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list > > _______________________________________________ Blinux-list mailing list Blinux-list@redhat.com https://listman.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/blinux-list
