You got it right! And no, there's no need for the heavier-weight about:flags for these sorts of small changes.
On Thu, Sep 4, 2025 at 1:04 AM Helmut Januschka <hjanusc...@gmail.com> wrote: > so it is a FinchFlag `ModulePreloadReferrer` and it is not listed in > about_flags.cc - hope i filled out the correct field in chromestatus > should it be listed in about_flags for webdevs to enable? > > Daniel Bratell schrieb am Mittwoch, 3. September 2025 um 17:17:28 UTC+2: > >> Great! >> >> Can you please add the flag to appropriate field in the feature's >> chromestatus entry so that people can find the flag if needed? >> >> /Daniel >> On 2025-09-02 20:30, Helmut Januschka wrote: >> >> It's relanded now with a feature flag! Thanks to everyone involved, and >> sorry for the troubles! >> >> Helmut Januschka schrieb am Dienstag, 2. September 2025 um 11:00:20 UTC+2: >> >>> the revert was back-merged into 140, and i am working on a reland here: >>> http://crrev.com/c/6898599 with feature flag around the change. >>> >>> yoav...@chromium.org schrieb am Freitag, 29. August 2025 um 05:40:48 >>> UTC+2: >>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 10:25 PM Krishna Govind <gov...@google.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you, any impact on Android Webview? Will it be safe to merge the >>>>> revert? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Yeah, it will impact Android WebViews as well. (but is safe to merge) >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Merged the revert to latest canary branch 7381 and triggered a new >>>>> canary #141.0.7381.3, please verify once available, will approve M140 >>>>> merge >>>>> after canary coverage/verification. >>>>> Updated the bugs: >>>>> >>>>> - https://g-issues.chromium.org/issues/409959472#comment17 >>>>> - https://g-issues.chromium.org/issues/441770546#comment6 >>>>> >>>>> Adding @Daniel Cheng as well for context >>>>> >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> Krishna >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 12:46 PM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < >>>>> yoav...@chromium.org> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Merge request issue is at >>>>>> https://issues.chromium.org/issues/441770546 >>>>>> CL is at >>>>>> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/6897886 >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 9:37 PM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) < >>>>>> yoav...@chromium.org> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 6:21 PM 'Krishna Govind' via blink-dev < >>>>>>> blin...@chromium.org> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Mike, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you for including Srinivas and me in this discussion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Since M140 was released to early stable yesterday with this feature >>>>>>>> enabled by default and without all necessary approvals, it's critical >>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>> we merge the revert to M140 and recut the M140 Stable RC for release on >>>>>>>> Tuesday, September 2nd. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I request that the revert be landed to trunk as soon as possible: [ >>>>>>>> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/6895357] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have a few questions for clarity: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Is this feature applicable only to Windows? I'm asking >>>>>>>> because it's listed under the Blink component, but the bug only has >>>>>>>> OS=Windows applied: [ >>>>>>>> https://g-issues.chromium.org/issues/409959472]. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I believe the feature is applicable to all OSes beyond iOS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - How safe is it to disable this feature this late in the M140 >>>>>>>> release cycle? >>>>>>>> - The enabled-by-default CL >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/6509110> >>>>>>>> landed on July 12th in Canary 140.0.7309.0, and we branched M140 >>>>>>>> (7339) on >>>>>>>> August 4th. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I believe it's safe to disable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Do we have any coverage at all with this feature disabled? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In terms of tests I believe the CL's revert also removes the >>>>>>> relevant WPTs. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Please provide a launch bug for this feature. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://issues.chromium.org/issues/409959472 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We will need to create an IRM and request a postmortem for this. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> @Srinivas Sista for his input as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you, >>>>>>>> Krishna >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Aug 28, 2025 at 8:39 AM Mike Taylor <mike...@chromium.org> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks Helmet - please don't be too hard on yourself. We've all >>>>>>>>> been there. :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For now, I would recommend getting the revert landed and >>>>>>>>> requesting a merge into beta. Thanks for requesting the other reviews. >>>>>>>>> On 8/28/25 5:36 p.m., Helmut Januschka wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> again, super sorry, this might be the single worst chromium day i >>>>>>>>> had since my first contribution. >>>>>>>>> tried to fillout everything in chromestatus entry, and request all >>>>>>>>> the reviews again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> a revert CL is here: >>>>>>>>> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/6895357 >>>>>>>>> ready to review/submit. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> just a note, about potential breakage, the WPT's i added, did pass >>>>>>>>> on other browsers already (that should be no excuse; but might be a >>>>>>>>> hint of >>>>>>>>> a hopefully non-nuclear blast radius) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> please feel free - to let me know what the next steps are, i am >>>>>>>>> fully committed to do whatever is necessary to turn this situation >>>>>>>>> into a >>>>>>>>> positive state. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Am Do., 28. Aug. 2025 um 16:54 Uhr schrieb Mike Taylor < >>>>>>>>> mike...@chromium.org>: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hey Helmut, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Oops. It's unfortunate that this feature is missing Privacy, >>>>>>>>>> Security, Enterprise, Debuggability & Testing reviews (per Chris' >>>>>>>>>> request >>>>>>>>>> back in May)... but I think more concerning is the fact that it's not >>>>>>>>>> guarded behind a feature flag. If we do end up breaking some sites >>>>>>>>>> (the >>>>>>>>>> risk seems pretty low, I think... but not zero, and sometimes it >>>>>>>>>> takes a >>>>>>>>>> few months for subtle bugs to be understood), we don't have an easy >>>>>>>>>> way to >>>>>>>>>> disable this besides merges and a Stable respin. My instinct would >>>>>>>>>> be to >>>>>>>>>> revert the CL on trunk and get that merged to 141 Beta ASAP. Adding >>>>>>>>>> M140 >>>>>>>>>> release owners Srinivas and Krishna for their guidance on what to do >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> the stable release (maybe nothing is the right answer - it doesn't >>>>>>>>>> seem >>>>>>>>>> like an emergency right now). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> You could then re-land the feature behind a disabled-by-default >>>>>>>>>> flag, and work through the normal reviews process. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (There are also unanswered questions from Chris that would help >>>>>>>>>> API OWNERs review the feature - can you answer those and kick off the >>>>>>>>>> reviews in the chromestatus entry?) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>>> On 8/27/25 4:11 p.m., Helmut Januschka wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I mistakenly landed the [CL]( >>>>>>>>>> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/6509110) >>>>>>>>>> in M140 before getting the intent to ship approved. My apologies for >>>>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'd appreciate guidance on how to proceed, given that. >>>>>>>>>> One way to go would be to keep the CL landed, and get your >>>>>>>>>> approvals (and the approval of the various checks retroactively). >>>>>>>>>> Another would be to revert the CL and try to merge-back that >>>>>>>>>> revert to 140 (allthough stable cut was yesterday :'( ). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Please let me know which way you prefer to go. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Chris Harrelson schrieb am Mittwoch, 14. Mai 2025 um 17:13:58 >>>>>>>>>> UTC+2: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Please also fill out the Privacy, Security, Enterprise, >>>>>>>>>>> Debuggability and Testing sections in the chromestatus entry. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, May 13, 2025 at 9:51 PM Domenic Denicola < >>>>>>>>>>> dom...@chromium.org> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 14, 2025 at 5:10 AM Chromestatus < >>>>>>>>>>>> ad...@cr-status.appspotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Contact emails hjanu...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Explainer None >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Specification >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/links.html#link-type-modulepreload:script-fetch-options >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Summary >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Fixes modulepreload to properly send referrer headers by using >>>>>>>>>>>>> ClientReferrerString() instead of NoReferrer(). This aligns >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chrome with the >>>>>>>>>>>>> HTML specification which requires using the client's referrer for >>>>>>>>>>>>> module >>>>>>>>>>>>> fetches. Includes WPT test verifying both dynamic imports and >>>>>>>>>>>>> modulepreload >>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly send referrer headers. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Can you update this to talk about what effects web developers >>>>>>>>>>>> see, instead of using the names of Chromium-codebase functions? >>>>>>>>>>>> This >>>>>>>>>>>> summary will be reflected to web developer-facing blog posts and >>>>>>>>>>>> such. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Blink component Blink>Loader>Preload >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Blink%3ELoader%3EPreload%22> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> TAG review None >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> TAG review status Not applicable >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Risks >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The primary risk is that some servers may have adapted to >>>>>>>>>>>>> Chrome's non-standard behavior, implementing logic that assumes >>>>>>>>>>>>> modulepreload requests will never include referrer headers. These >>>>>>>>>>>>> systems >>>>>>>>>>>>> could potentially mishandle or reject requests with the newly >>>>>>>>>>>>> added >>>>>>>>>>>>> referrer information. However, this risk is mitigated by the fact >>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>> other major browsers already implement the correct behavior, >>>>>>>>>>>>> meaning most >>>>>>>>>>>>> cross-browser web applications should already handle referrer >>>>>>>>>>>>> headers >>>>>>>>>>>>> properly. Additionally, since modulepreload is a relatively >>>>>>>>>>>>> recent feature, >>>>>>>>>>>>> widespread dependence on the incorrect behavior is unlikely. The >>>>>>>>>>>>> benefit of >>>>>>>>>>>>> standards compliance and consistent behavior across script >>>>>>>>>>>>> loading methods >>>>>>>>>>>>> outweighs these potential compatibility concerns. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Gecko*: Shipped/Shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *WebKit*: Shipped/Shipping >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Web developers*: No signals >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> *Other signals*: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> WebView application risks >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing >>>>>>>>>>>>> APIs, such that it has potentially high risk for Android >>>>>>>>>>>>> WebView-based >>>>>>>>>>>>> applications? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> None >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Debuggability >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> None >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms >>>>>>>>>>>>> (Windows, Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)? >>>>>>>>>>>>> No >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ? No >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Above you said there were WPTs, but here you say there are not. >>>>>>>>>>>> Which is correct? If there are such tests, can you provide links >>>>>>>>>>>> to them? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Flag name on about://flags None >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Finch feature name None >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Non-finch justification None >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Either a Finch feature name or (rarely) a non-Finch >>>>>>>>>>>> justification is necessary for any possibly-breaking change like >>>>>>>>>>>> this. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Rollout plan Will ship enabled for all users >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Requires code in //chrome? False >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tracking bug https://crbug.com/409959472 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Estimated milestones >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> No milestones specified >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Anticipated spec changes >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web >>>>>>>>>>>>> compat or interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to >>>>>>>>>>>>> known >>>>>>>>>>>>> github issues in the project for the feature specification) whose >>>>>>>>>>>>> resolution may introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing >>>>>>>>>>>>> to naming >>>>>>>>>>>>> or structure of the API in a non-backward-compatible way). >>>>>>>>>>>>> None >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5144463990849536?gate=4969922291302400 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com>. >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/6823a747.050a0220.624fd.01b3.GAE%40google.com >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/6823a747.050a0220.624fd.01b3.GAE%40google.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAM0wra-BywrbKFHpjkM-SVespzLEesezHZSkn9S_vy1UrWXKjQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAM0wra-BywrbKFHpjkM-SVespzLEesezHZSkn9S_vy1UrWXKjQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/b42f99d4-1881-476a-acfc-e98bde8dee54n%40chromium.org >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/b42f99d4-1881-476a-acfc-e98bde8dee54n%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAMf41adLTqu70hNjXPWUZBEW8QXS53WKAdBH-Wy0G3bh40dBXA%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAMf41adLTqu70hNjXPWUZBEW8QXS53WKAdBH-Wy0G3bh40dBXA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "blink-dev" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >> >> To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/189d979c-80c4-46b6-8ac4-74c4453f082en%40chromium.org >> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/189d979c-80c4-46b6-8ac4-74c4453f082en%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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