I filed a spec issue <https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/12229>,
let's continue the discussion there.

On Thu, May 22, 2025 at 10:44 PM Jake Archibald <jaffathec...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Wouldn't the answer be to make the viewport units behave like container
> query units?
>
> It feels like container queries hit all these problems and came up with
> solutions. There may be additional issues, but it seems like a better
> starting point.
>
> On Thu, 22 May 2025, 18:17 Chris Harrelson, <chris...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 20, 2025 at 12:05 AM Jake Archibald <jaffathec...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I think the "one shot" nature of this means it misses a lot of
>>> use-cases, such as the Discus case given in the explainer. Could the size
>>> be updated continually with the same constraints applied to CSS containers?
>>> This would also allow size to be set sooner than the load event, which
>>> would perform better, given how late the load event fires (after all images
>>> have loaded etc).
>>
>>
>> That would be ideal, if we can find a way. The reason for the
>> restriction in the current prototype is to avoid hysteresis and infinite
>> layout loops (as well as poor performance generally). For example, if the
>> iframe content is sized to 120% of the viewport, then repeatedly laying it
>> out will make the <iframe> in the parent document larger and larger on
>> every layout.
>>
>> One way to avoid this problem could be to perform the layout with the
>> same starting size for the <iframe> on every layout of the child frame...
>>
>>
>>> On Tuesday, 20 May 2025 at 00:43:20 UTC+2 Chromestatus wrote:
>>>
>>>> Contact emails chri...@chromium.org
>>>>
>>>> Explainer
>>>> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/blob/main/css-sizing-4/responsive-iframes-explainer.md
>>>>
>>>> Specification None
>>>>
>>>> Summary
>>>>
>>>> Allow sites to opt into iframes having responsive sizing (sizing the
>>>> <iframe> element in the parent document to the iframe document's layout
>>>> overflow sizing, so that scrolling in the child document is avoided).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Blink component Blink>Layout
>>>> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Blink%3ELayout%22>
>>>>
>>>> Motivation
>>>>
>>>> This is a natural feature to have for iframes, when the site wants to
>>>> render the iframe content so that it looks seamless with the parent frame
>>>> and avoids scrollbars.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Initial public proposal https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/555
>>>>
>>>> TAG review None
>>>>
>>>> TAG review status Pending
>>>>
>>>> Risks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>
>>>> None
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Gecko*: No signal
>>>>
>>>> *WebKit*: No signal
>>>>
>>>> *Web developers*: No signals Plenty of developer demand is expressed
>>>> in the feature request standards issues:
>>>> https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/555
>>>> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/1771
>>>>
>>>> *Other signals*:
>>>>
>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>
>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>>
>>>> None
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Debuggability
>>>>
>>>> None
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>> ? No
>>>>
>>>> Flag name on about://flags None
>>>>
>>>> Finch feature name None
>>>>
>>>> Non-finch justification None
>>>>
>>>> Requires code in //chrome? False
>>>>
>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>
>>>> No milestones specified
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5108373464547328?gate=5167068974153728
>>>>
>>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status
>>>> <https://chromestatus.com>.
>>>>
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