On 3/11/25 9:52 AM, Andrew Liu wrote:

On Monday, March 10, 2025 at 5:16:00 PM UTC-4 Mike Taylor wrote:

    On 3/3/25 10:32 AM, Andrew Liu wrote:

    Done, requested reviews.

    On Sunday, March 2, 2025 at 9:35:30 PM UTC-5 Domenic Denicola wrote:

        Can you request Privacy, WP Security, Enterprise,
        Debuggability, and Testing review gates in ChromeStatus?

        On Friday, February 28, 2025 at 7:45:44 AM UTC+9 Andrew Liu
        wrote:

            Fixed the link in chromestatus, thanks.

            On Thursday, February 27, 2025 at 5:02:41 PM UTC-5 Mike
            Taylor wrote:

                On 2/27/25 3:46 PM, Chromestatus wrote:

                Contact emails l...@chromium.org,
                ort...@chromium.org, sv...@chromium.org,
                rtarp...@chromium.org

                Explainer
                
https://github.com/privacycg/nav-tracking-mitigations/issues/41#issuecomment-2504329542
                
<https://github.com/privacycg/nav-tracking-mitigations/issues/41#issuecomment-2504329542>


                Specification
                
https://privacycg.github.io/nav-tracking-mitigations/#bounce-tracking-mitigations
                
<https://privacycg.github.io/nav-tracking-mitigations/#bounce-tracking-mitigations>

    Can you point out which section covers the stateless bounce
    tracking? It's not obvious to me.

The stateless modifications are in this pull request: https://github.com/privacycg/nav-tracking-mitigations/pull/95. ChromeStatus mentioned I should prefer the published spec link over unmerged PRs; would you recommend I use the PR link instead in this case?
Thank you. My personal opinion is that an unmerged PR is more useful in the chromestatus entry than a link to a spec that is missing the relevant proposed changes. But, even better is merging the PR and linking to the spec. So, what is preventing us from doing that in this case?




                Summary

                Bounce tracking mitigations for the HTTP cache is an
                extension to existing anti-bounce-tracking behavior.
                It removes the requirement that a suspected tracking
                site must have performed storage access in order to
                activate bounce tracking mitigations. Chrome's
                initially proposed bounce tracking mitigation
                solution triggers when a site accesses browser
                storage (e.g. cookies) during a redirect flow.
                However, bounce trackers can systematically
                circumvent such mitigations by using the HTTP cache
                to preserve data. By relaxing the triggering
                conditions for bounce tracking mitigations, the
                browser should be able to catch bounce trackers
                using the HTTP cache.



                Blink component Privacy>NavTracking
                
<https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Privacy%3ENavTracking%22>


                TAG review
                https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/862
                <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/862>
                It looks like
                https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1062
                <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/1062>
                is the correct link.


                TAG review status Not applicable

                Risks


                Interoperability and Compatibility

                None



                /Gecko/: Positive
                (https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/835
                <https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/835>)


    What is the difference between 835 and
    https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1186
    <https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1186>? Is
    1186 supposed to cover this particular change (not requiring
    storage access / considering the HTTP cache)? If so, could it be
    edited to reflect that?

Yeah, 1186 was opened to highlight the stateless changes. Edited the ChromeStatus entry.



                /WebKit/: No signal
                (https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/214
                <https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/214>)


    Could we add a comment to this old issue informing them of this
    proposed change?

Done.



                /Web developers/: No signals

                /Other signals/:

                WebView application risks

                Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of
                existing APIs, such that it has potentially high
                risk for Android WebView-based applications?

                None



                Debuggability

                There exists a section in Chrome devtools to try out
                bounce tracking mitigations (see link for context).
                It currently checks for the current (stateful)
                behavior and will be updated after the fact.
                Progress for devtools parity is tracked in
                https://crbug.com/399681359.
                
https://developer.chrome.com/blog/bounce-tracking-mitigations-dev-trial#how_can_i_tell_if_my_site_is_impacted
                
<https://developer.chrome.com/blog/bounce-tracking-mitigations-dev-trial#how_can_i_tell_if_my_site_is_impacted>



                Will this feature be supported on all six Blink
                platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android,
                and Android WebView)? No

                This feature is supported on all platforms except
                WebView.



                Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
                
<https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?
                Yes

                
https://wpt.fyi/results/nav-tracking-mitigations?label=master&label=experimental&aligned&q=nav-tracking-mitigations
                
<https://wpt.fyi/results/nav-tracking-mitigations?label=master&label=experimental&aligned&q=nav-tracking-mitigations>



                Flag name on about://flags None

                Finch feature name DIPS

                Requires code in //chrome? False

                Tracking bug https://crbug.com/40264244

                Launch bug
                https://launch.corp.google.com/launch/4354304
                <https://launch.corp.google.com/launch/4354304>

                Estimated milestones Shipping on desktop 134

                Anticipated spec changes

                Open questions about a feature may be a source of
                future web compat or interop issues. Please list
                open issues (e.g. links to known github issues in
                the project for the feature specification) whose
                resolution may introduce web compat/interop risk
                (e.g., changing to naming or structure of the API in
                a non-backward-compatible way).

                https://github.com/privacycg/nav-tracking-mitigations/pull/95
                <https://github.com/privacycg/nav-tracking-mitigations/pull/95>


                Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
                
https://chromestatus.com/feature/6299570819301376?gate=5206396818423808
                
<https://chromestatus.com/feature/6299570819301376?gate=5206396818423808>


                Links to previous Intent discussions Intent to
                Prototype:
                
https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/67644489.2b0a0220.30ecd.0256.GAE%40google.com
                
<https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/67644489.2b0a0220.30ecd.0256.GAE%40google.com>



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