OK, I should have looked more carefully at the context for the proposed
change. Yes, there is no way to kill switch this so I withdraw my concern.

I am still worried in particular about the change from "negative goes to
infinity" to "negative stays negative" but I accept there's nothing to be
done apart from launching and seeing what, if anything, happens.

Stephen.

On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at 8:36 PM Domenic Denicola <dome...@chromium.org>
wrote:

>
>
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 12:41 AM Stephen Chenney <schen...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Feb 13, 2025 at 11:06 PM Chromestatus <
>> ad...@cr-status.appspotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Contact emails le...@chromium.org
>>>
>>> Explainer https://github.com/whatwg/xhr/pull/394
>>>
>>> Specification https://whatpr.org/xhr/394.html#interface-progressevent
>>>
>>> Summary
>>>
>>> The ProgressEvent has attributes `loaded` and `total` indicating the
>>> progress, and their type is `unsigned long long` now. With this feature,
>>> the type for these two attributes is changed to `double` instead, which
>>> gives the developer more control over the value. For example, the
>>> developers can now create a ProgressEvent with the `total` of 1 and the
>>> `loaded` increasing from 0 to 1 gradually. This is aligned with the default
>>> behavior of the <progress> HTML element if the max attribute is omitted.
>>>
>>>
>>> Blink component Blink
>>> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Blink%22>
>>>
>>> TAG review None
>>>
>>> TAG review status Pending
>>>
>>> Risks
>>>
>>>
>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>
>>> This change will not be visible if the web developers implement the
>>> ProgressEvent using non-negative integer in the loaded or total fields.
>>> However, if a negative number or a decimal number is used, it would be
>>> converted to unsigned integer before, but will be returned without any
>>> conversion after this feature is introduced. For example - `new
>>> ProgressEvent("event", { loaded: 1.1 }).loaded` is 1 now, but it will be
>>> 1.1 after the change. - `new ProgressEvent("event", { loaded: -1 }).loaded`
>>> is 18446744073709552000 now, but it will be -1 after the change.
>>>
>>>
>>> *Gecko*: Positive (
>>> https://github.com/whatwg/xhr/pull/394#issuecomment-2607316190)
>>>
>>> *WebKit*: Positive (
>>> https://github.com/whatwg/xhr/pull/394#issuecomment-2603844507)
>>>
>>> *Web developers*: Positive (
>>> https://github.com/webmachinelearning/writing-assistance-apis/issues/15)
>>>
>>>
>>> *Other signals*:
>>>
>>> WebView application risks
>>>
>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>
>>> None
>>>
>>>
>>> Debuggability
>>>
>>> None
>>>
>>>
>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
>>> Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)? No
>>>
>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>> ? Yes
>>>
>>>
>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/xhr/progress-events-response-data-gzip.htm?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/xhr/progressevent-constructor.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/xhr/progressevent-interface.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
>>>
>>>
>>> Flag name on about://flags None
>>>
>>> Finch feature name None
>>
>>
>> Fine with no Finch, but a kill switch should be included on a change like
>> this, just in case there is more breakage than anticipated. Even better, if
>> possible, would be UseCounter measurements of how often sites would see
>> different behavior.
>>
>
> How would you propose implementing a kill switch for an IDL feature like
> this? Since IDL cannot be guarded behind flags, it would be pretty
> difficult. (Custom bindings, maybe?)
>
> I don't believe this minor feature requires such caution.
>
>
>>
>> Stephen.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Non-finch justification
>>>
>>> This feature changes the definition of existing implementation of
>>> ProgressEvent so it's not possible to conduct a finch experiment.
>>>
>>>
>>> Requires code in //chrome? False
>>>
>>> Estimated milestones
>>> Shipping on desktop 135
>>>
>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>
>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or
>>> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues
>>> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may
>>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of
>>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>>> None
>>>
>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5067669587623936?gate=5176277298053120
>>>
>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status
>>> <https://chromestatus.com>.
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