Ok thanks for clarifying that this is shipping and not further experimentation.
Could you share the findings from the origin trials? On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 11:31 AM 'Alan Baker' via blink-dev < blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote: > I've filed the standard's position issues (and added to the feature). Here > they are for reference: > > - Mozilla: https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1160 > - WebKit: https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/446 > > The name was a bad choice. I wasn't familiar with this process initially > and only thought of the name with the Origin trial in mind. We don't > consider this an experiment anymore. > > On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 11:31 AM Chris Harrelson <chris...@chromium.org> > wrote: > >> Also: >> >> >> * The spec PR needs to land >> * What do you mean by "experimentation" in the title of this Intent? >> >> On Wed, Jan 8, 2025 at 8:30 AM Alex Russell <slightly...@chromium.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Hey Alan, >>> >>> Just for the avoidance of future friction, we try to use the explicit >>> signals systems from Apple and Mozilla because they've asked us not to use >>> their rep's statements in WGs as assent. Is it possible for you to file >>> those? >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Alex >>> >>> On Monday, January 6, 2025 at 10:48:36 AM UTC-8 Alan Baker wrote: >>> >>>> Contact emailsalanba...@google.com >>>> >>>> Explainer >>>> https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/blob/main/proposals/subgroups.md >>>> >>>> Specificationhttps://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/pull/4963 >>>> >>>> Approved by Apple rep, editorial comment by Mozilla rep. >>>> >>>> Summary >>>> >>>> Adds subgroup functionality to WebGPU. Subgroup operations perform SIMT >>>> operations to provide efficient communication and data sharing among groups >>>> of invocations. These operations can be used to accelerate applications by >>>> reducing memory overheads incurred by inter-invocation communication. >>>> >>>> >>>> Blink componentBlink>WebGPU >>>> <https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=customfield1222907:%22Blink%3EWebGPU%22> >>>> >>>> TAG reviewNone >>>> >>>> TAG review statusNot applicable >>>> >>>> Origin Trial NameWebGPU Subgroups Features >>>> >>>> Chromium Trial NameWebGPUSubgroupsFeatures >>>> >>>> Origin Trial documentation link >>>> https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/blob/main/proposals/subgroups.md >>>> >>>> WebFeature UseCounter namekWebGPUSubgroupsFeatures >>>> >>>> Risks >>>> >>>> >>>> Interoperability and Compatibility >>>> >>>> None >>>> >>>> >>>> *Gecko*: No signal >>>> >>>> *WebKit*: No signal >>>> >>>> *Web developers*: No signals >>>> >>>> *Other signals*: >>>> >>>> Security >>>> >>>> None. This feature exposes functionality for operations only within a >>>> single draw/dispatch. Data is contained within a single users run. >>>> >>>> >>>> WebView application risks >>>> >>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such >>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications? >>>> >>>> None >>>> >>>> >>>> Debuggability >>>> >>>> No special debugging is available for this feature as it resides solely >>>> on the GPU. >>>> >>>> >>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, >>>> Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?No >>>> >>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >>>> ?No >>>> >>>> Flag name on about://flagsNone >>>> >>>> Finch feature nameNone >>>> >>>> Non-finch justificationNone >>>> >>>> Requires code in //chrome?False >>>> >>>> Availability expectationBoth Apple and Mozilla have indicated they >>>> plan to support this feature in the future. Those implementations are >>>> catching up to Chrome in terms of core functionality currently. WebGPU is >>>> part of Safari technical previews and Mozilla nightly builds. >>>> >>>> Adoption expectationThis feature should have wide adoption for >>>> specific use cases. It is not expected that all WebGPU shaders would >>>> utilize subgroups, but many applications (e.g. ML) could. >>>> >>>> Non-OSS dependencies >>>> >>>> Does the feature depend on any code or APIs outside the Chromium open >>>> source repository and its open-source dependencies to function? >>>> No >>>> >>>> Estimated milestones >>>> Shipping on desktop 134 >>>> Origin trial desktop first 128 >>>> Origin trial desktop last 131 >>>> Origin trial extension 1 end milestone 133 >>>> Shipping on Android 134 >>>> Origin trial Android first 128 >>>> Origin trial Android last 131 >>>> Shipping on WebView 134 >>>> Origin trial WebView first 128 >>>> Origin trial WebView last 131 >>>> >>>> Anticipated spec changes >>>> >>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or >>>> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues >>>> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may >>>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of >>>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way). >>>> Editorial changes only. Future features are likely to build on top of >>>> this extension. >>>> >>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5126409856221184?gate=5073549680443392 >>>> >>>> Links to previous Intent discussionsIntent to Experiment: >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CABg%2BrB67gB5gUeDVPaMZ7fZwmeARTUsizs1BTXFXKGpJ%3DpF1TQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>> Intent to Extend Experiment 1: >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CABg%2BrB5jfO13yZGBxMAHRgZX_P0qbixCKSK10SujYkBxftujnQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> This intent message was generated by Chrome Platform Status >>>> <https://chromestatus.com/>. >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>> To view this discussion visit >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/1969ee25-f88c-482d-adb1-88846d1d4e64n%40chromium.org >>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/1969ee25-f88c-482d-adb1-88846d1d4e64n%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "blink-dev" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CABg%2BrB7yinOiFXX1ud4hLU9Y2F-9w8O1EL4KZ-KTWDOGCt-B2A%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CABg%2BrB7yinOiFXX1ud4hLU9Y2F-9w8O1EL4KZ-KTWDOGCt-B2A%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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