> probably makes sense to start by suggesting a change to https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-main-fetch, > but the editors there might ask you to write an update to the RFC.
I don't think I understand what change to Fetch would be proposed. The section you flagged has two relevant clauses related to HTTPS upgrades: 5. Upgrade request to a potentially trustworthy URL, if appropriate. 6. Upgrade a mixed content request to a potentially trustworthy URL, if appropriate. Notably, [*.]localhost is already a potentially trustworthy URL: https://w3c.github.io/webappsec-secure-contexts/#is-origin-trustworthy, clause #5. ...which implies to me that the behavior I propose is already what Fetch asks for. On Wednesday, October 23, 2024 at 7:12:28 PM UTC-5 Jeffrey Yasskin wrote: > Can you propose a matching change to the relevant standard? It probably > makes sense to start by suggesting a change to > https://fetch.spec.whatwg.org/#concept-main-fetch, but the editors there > might ask you to write an update to the RFC. We can figure out the cheapest > way to get that done if they do ask. There's no need to block shipping this > on getting the updates finished, but the launch process > <https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#new-feature-prepare-to-ship:~:text=propose%20that%20the%20feature%20migrate%20to%20a%20working%20group> > does > say to propose it first. > > Jeffrey > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 2:28 PM 'Eric Lawrence' via blink-dev < > blin...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> *Following up on an earlier thread >> here: https://groups.google.com/u/1/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/gGHOmFGEzQ0 >> <https://groups.google.com/u/1/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/gGHOmFGEzQ0>* >> >> Contact emails: eri...@microsoft.com >> >> Explainer: None >> >> Specification: HSTS specification is at >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6797; this feature proposes an >> improvement. >> >> Summary >> >> Strict-Transport-Security response headers can cause problems for >> localhost web servers because STS applies host-wide, across all ports. This >> causes compatibility problems for web developers testing locally as well as >> end-users who use software packages that commonly spin up localhost >> webservers for ephemeral reasons (e.g. communication of an auth token from >> a web login to a local software package). If one local listener sets >> Strict-Transport-Security on a localhost response, it will be applied to >> all subsequent localhost requests regardless of port. We resolve this >> problem by ignoring Strict-Transport-Security headers on responses from >> localhost URLs. >> >> Blink component: Internals>Network>DomainSecurityPolicy >> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Internals%3ENetwork%3EDomainSecurityPolicy> >> >> TAG review: None >> >> Risks >> >> Interoperability and Compatibility >> >> The expectation is that this will improve compatibility with services >> that run on localhost by avoiding unexpected interactions across unrelated >> packages. >> >> *Gecko*: Shipped/Shipping >> >> *WebKit*: No signal >> >> *Web developers*: Positive ( >> https://issues.chromium.org/issues?q=HSTS%20localhost) Web Developers >> who test their sites locally commonly report problems with >> Strict-Transport-Security headers applying unexpectedly across unrelated >> localhost services under tests. >> >> *Other signals*: >> >> WebView application risks >> >> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that >> it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications? >> >> None >> >> >> Debuggability >> >> HSTS upgrades show in the F12 Network pane as "307 Internal Redirect." In >> the absence of such an upgrade, the 307 is not shown. >> >> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, >> Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)? Yes. >> >> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >> ? No, HSTS is not tested by Web Platform tests. The change is tested by >> Chrome unit and browser tests. >> >> Flag name on chrome://flags: None >> >> Finch feature name: None >> >> Non-finch justification: None >> >> Requires code in //chrome? All of the functional changes are in /net/ >> but tests under /chrome/ require updates to use non 'localhost' test >> endpoints. >> >> Tracking bug https://issues.chromium.org/issues/41251622; CL: >> https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5923046 >> <https://chromium-review.googlesource.com/c/chromium/src/+/5923046> >> >> Estimated milestones >> Shipping on desktop >> 132 >> Shipping on Android >> 132 >> >> Anticipated spec changes >> >> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or >> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues >> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may >> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of >> the API in a non-backward-compatible way). >> None >> >> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status: >> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5134293196865536?gate=5113092281991168 >> >> Links to previous Intent discussions: >> https://groups.google.com/u/1/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/gGHOmFGEzQ0 >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "blink-dev" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to blink-dev+...@chromium.org. >> To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/8d6c447c-32ba-46af-b04e-828e69b38322n%40chromium.org >> >> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/8d6c447c-32ba-46af-b04e-828e69b38322n%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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