LGTM2

On Sun, Oct 6, 2024 at 9:31 PM Domenic Denicola <dome...@chromium.org>
wrote:

> LGTM1.
>
> This seems like a great, well-thought-out, and widely-reviewed improvement
> to the status quo. I appreciate the detailed compat notes, and the
> mitigations taken so far (testing in Canary and Dev). A use counter would
> have been ideal, but I don't think we should hold this up waiting for that,
> especially since you have a Finch feature so if this somehow causes
> terrible regressions, we can flip it back. (I agree with your assumption
> that using `display: contents` on details is likely rare.)
>
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2024 at 11:54 PM David Baron <dba...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> Contact emailsdba...@chromium.org
>>
>> Explainerhttps://github.com/dbaron/details-styling
>> https://dbaron.github.io/details-styling/phase-1
>>
>> Specification
>> https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/rendering.html#the-details-and-summary-elements
>>
>> Summary
>>
>> Support more CSS styling for the structure of <details> and <summary>
>> elements to allow these elements to be used in more cases where disclosure
>> widgets or accordion widgets are built on the web. In particular, this
>> change removes restrictions that prevented setting the display property on
>> these elements, and adds a ::details-content pseudo-element to style the
>> container for the part that expands and collapses.
>>
>>
>> Blink componentBlink>HTML>Details
>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EHTML%3EDetails>
>>
>> TAG reviewhttps://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/965
>>
>> TAG review statusIssues addressed
>>
>> Risks
>>
>>
>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>
>> There's some interoperability and compatibility risk around changes to
>> <details> styling. Currently styling of the list marker is not
>> interoperable as there are two different approaches, one taken by Gecko and
>> (current) Chromium, and another taken by WebKit (which was previously
>> shared with Chromium). However, this initial phase of work doesn't address
>> marker styling very much. In most cases, the changes being proposed here
>> are compatible with existing content. However, they do include one breaking
>> change, in that they make the <slot> matched by the ::details-content
>> pseudo-element be display:block by default rather than being display:block
>> when closed and display:contents when open. This could potentially break
>> content that is currently using display:contents on the details element,
>> although such content is likely rare, and could be easily fixed by
>> explicitly setting the old style (details[open]::details-content { display:
>> contents }). This change is included because it significantly improves the
>> developer ergonomics of using ::details-content; however, if it turns out
>> to cause compatibility issues then it could be rolled back (at the cost of
>> developer ergonomics for users of ::details-content, some of which who
>> would need to explicitly specify display to override the display:contents
>> default). For more details, see https://crrev.com/c/5594192 .
>>
>>
>> In order to get additional testing to uncover problems, this feature was
>> enabled for 50% of canary and dev channels from early July until mid
>> September. During that time no issues were reported (or at least none that
>> found their way to me).
>>
>>
>> *Gecko*: Positive (
>> https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/1027)
>>
>> *WebKit*: Support (
>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/351)
>>
>> *Web developers*: No signals
>>
>> *Other signals*:
>>
>> WebView application risks
>>
>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such that
>> it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>
>> see above regarding Compatibility risks
>>
>>
>> Debuggability
>>
>> https://issues.chromium.org/40280502 describes one small-ish issue with
>> the way devtools shows the resulting CSS cascade.
>>
>>
>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac,
>> Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?Yes
>>
>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>> ?Yes
>>
>>
>> https://wpt.fyi/results/html/rendering/the-details-element/details-display-type-001.html
>> https://wpt.fyi/results/html/rendering/the-details-element/details-display-type-002.html
>> https://wpt.fyi/results/html/rendering/the-details-element/details-display-type-001-ref.html
>> https://wpt.fyi/results/html/rendering/the-details-element/details-display.html
>> https://wpt.fyi/results/html/rendering/the-details-element/details-pseudo-elements-001.html
>> https://wpt.fyi/results/html/rendering/the-details-element/details-pseudo-elements-002.html
>> https://wpt.fyi/results/html/rendering/the-details-element/details-pseudo-elements-003.html
>>
>>
>> Flag name on chrome://flagsNone
>>
>> Finch feature nameDetailsStyling
>>
>> Requires code in //chrome?False
>>
>> Tracking bughttps://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1469418
>>
>> Availability expectationMy hope is that this will be implemented
>> reasonably soon in other engines. It seems reasonably likely that this will
>> happen (in so far as we can predict such things for features where Chrome
>> is the first implementation).
>>
>> Estimated milestones
>> Shipping on desktop 131
>> DevTrial on desktop 119
>> Shipping on Android 131
>> DevTrial on Android 119
>> Shipping on WebView 131
>>
>> Anticipated spec changes
>>
>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or
>> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues
>> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may
>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure of
>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>> None
>>
>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5112013093339136?gate=6299990444212224
>>
>> Links to previous Intent discussionsIntent to Prototype:
>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/Q1OX6ZA_aaE/m/ALwkAOfHAwAJ
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