On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 2:38 PM Reilly Grant <reil...@chromium.org> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 11:22 AM Vladimir Levin <vmp...@chromium.org>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 28, 2024 at 12:34 PM 'Ajay Rahatekar' via blink-dev <
>> blink-dev@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Ty, Will do.
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, August 28, 2024 at 9:02:31 AM UTC-7 sligh...@chromium.org
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Please send this as an FYI to the TAG.
>>>>
>>>> LGTM1
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 23, 2024 at 10:05:35 AM UTC-7 ajayra...@google.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Contact emails
>>>>>
>>>>> mattre...@google.com
>>>>>
>>>>> Explainer
>>>>>
>>>>> https://github.com/WICG/serial/blob/main/EXPLAINER_BLUETOOTH.md
>>>>>
>>>>> Specification
>>>>>
>>>>> https://wicg.github.io/serial/#serialport-interface
>>>>>
>>>>> Summary
>>>>>
>>>>> This feature adds a boolean SerialPort.connected attribute. The
>>>>> attribute is true if the serial port is logically connected. For wired
>>>>> serial ports, a port is logically connected if the port is physically
>>>>> attached to the system. For wireless serial ports, a port is logically
>>>>> connected if the device hosting the port has any open connections to the
>>>>> host.
>>>>>
>>>>> Previously, only wired serial ports dispatched connect and disconnect
>>>>> events. With this feature, Bluetooth RFCOMM serial ports will dispatch
>>>>> these events when the port becomes logically connected or disconnected.
>>>>>
>>>>> This feature is intended to allow applications to detect when a
>>>>> Bluetooth RFCOMM serial port is available without opening the port.
>>>>>
>>>>
>> It sounds like for a wireless port logically connected means that there
>> is an active connection present. Does that mean that checking `connected`
>> is insufficient for the purposes of figuring out if one can establish a
>> connection? IOW, if connected is false, it could just mean there are no
>> open connections but one can be made. Am I misunderstanding this?
>>
>
> Correct. The connected attribute tells the site what the system knows
> about the state of the device, but if the system doesn't know, something
> has to actually try to connect to find out if the device is there.
>

Is it possible to add a small example to an explainer how this is meant to
be used (or common usage that motivates this attribute)?


>
>> Thanks,
>> Vlad
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Blink component
>>>>>
>>>>> Blink>Serial
>>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3ESerial>
>>>>>
>>>>> Search tags
>>>>>
>>>>> serial <https://chromestatus.com/features#tags:serial>, rfcomm
>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/features#tags:rfcomm>, bluetooth
>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/features#tags:bluetooth>, connect
>>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/features#tags:connect>
>>>>>
>>>>> TAG review
>>>>>
>>>>> No TAG review is planned for this minor API change. Bluetooth RFCOMM
>>>>> support was previously reviewed:
>>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/854
>>>>>
>>>>> TAG review status
>>>>>
>>>>> Not applicable
>>>>>
>>>>> Risks
>>>>>
>>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>
>>>>> Web Serial has not yet been adopted by other browser engines which
>>>>> increases interoperability risk.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gecko: Neutral (
>>>>> https://mozilla.github.io/standards-positions/#webserial) Deferring
>>>>> to the Web Serial (Add-On Gated) position. Mozilla has not commented on
>>>>> this specific feature.
>>>>>
>>>>> WebKit: Negative (https://webkit.org/tracking-prevention) Apple is
>>>>> opposed to Web Serial API, we assume they also oppose any extensions to 
>>>>> the
>>>>> API.
>>>>>
>>>>> Web developers: Positive This feature was requested by an internal
>>>>> partner.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other signals:
>>>>>
>>>>> WebView application risks
>>>>>
>>>>> Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>>>
>>>>> Web Serial API is not implemented for Android WebView.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Debuggability
>>>>>
>>>>> None
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows,
>>>>> Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?
>>>>>
>>>>> No
>>>>>
>>>>> Web Serial is not implemented on Android.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests
>>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>>> ?
>>>>>
>>>>> No
>>>>>
>>>>> Flag name on chrome://flags
>>>>>
>>>>> None
>>>>>
>>>>> Finch feature name
>>>>>
>>>>> SerialPortConnected
>>>>>
>>>>> Requires code in //chrome?
>>>>>
>>>>> False
>>>>>
>>>>> Tracking bug
>>>>>
>>>>> https://crbug.com/1488031
>>>>>
>>>>> Launch bug
>>>>>
>>>>> https://launch.corp.google.com/4297948
>>>>>
>>>>> Estimated milestones
>>>>>
>>>>> Shipping on desktop
>>>>>
>>>>> 129
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>>>
>>>>> Open questions about a feature may be a source of future web compat or
>>>>> interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links to known github issues
>>>>> in the project for the feature specification) whose resolution may
>>>>> introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to naming or structure 
>>>>> of
>>>>> the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>>>>>
>>>>> None
>>>>>
>>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>
>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5118102654418944?gate=5185243630010368
>>>>>
>>>>> Links to previous Intent discussions
>>>>>
>>>>> Intent to Prototype:
>>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAHB%2BDAiJmnJTvQdiMezidfK4vu7r6_nLxyYfjg1n%2B8%2BAcEEyZQ%40mail.gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
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