That's fine. No re-approval is needed

On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 3:12 PM Yi Gu <y...@chromium.org> wrote:

> Hello API owners!
>
> Quick update: we didn't start the OT on desktop until M125 and haven't
> started the OT on Android yet. Therefore we propose to update the estimated
> milestones to:
> desktop: M125 - M130 inclusive
> Android: M128 - M130 inclusive
>
> WDYT?
>
> Regards,
> Yi
>
> On Tue, Apr 9, 2024 at 12:33 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) <
> yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:
>
>> That's indeed very useful to get a better understanding of the overall
>> flow, thanks! :)
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 8, 2024 at 5:06 PM Yi Gu <y...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Yoav,
>>>
>>> Thanks for the suggestion! We have a flowchart
>>> <https://raw.githubusercontent.com/yi-gu/fedcm-images/main/button_flow/ButtonFlow.jpeg>
>>> in that thread to try to explain what a browser would do in case a user is
>>> not logged in to the IdP but maybe it's not very clear. The answer to your
>>> questions is yes. IdP controls which login page the new window would load
>>> (by reusing the required "login_url
>>> <https://developers.google.com/privacy-sandbox/3pcd/fedcm-developer-guide#login-url>"
>>> field from LoginStatus API). However they cannot choose another way to
>>> handle user logged-out in the middle of a FedCM button flow. In addition,
>>> we provided this deck
>>> <https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1iURrPakaHgBfQ6mAefKijjxToiTTgBSPz1rtaV0od98/edit?usp=sharing>
>>>  of
>>> mocks w.r.t. how Chrome plans to implement the Button flow. We may change
>>> some of the UI affordance during OT and will publish a blog post with
>>> instruction and proposed UX soon.
>>>
>>> Please let us know if we could make it more clear for developers.
>>>
>>> Yi
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 5, 2024 at 9:36 AM Yoav Weiss (@Shopify) <
>>> yoavwe...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 1:43:01 AM UTC+1 Mike Taylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That said, please request approvals from the various review gates in
>>>> your chromestatus entry before experimenting.
>>>> On 2/26/24 7:41 PM, Mike Taylor wrote:
>>>>
>>>> LGTM to experiment from M124 to M127 inclusive.
>>>> On 2/26/24 5:45 PM, Yi Gu wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Contact emails
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * y...@chromium.org <y...@chromium.org>, cbiesin...@chromium.org
>>>> <cbiesin...@chromium.org>, tanzach...@chromium.org
>>>> <tanzach...@chromium.org> * Explainer
>>>>
>>>> * https://github.com/fedidcg/FedCM/issues/442
>>>> <https://github.com/fedidcg/FedCM/issues/442#issuecomment-1949323416>*
>>>>
>>>> With my API owner hat off, this is not sufficient as an explainer, and
>>>> makes it hard for me to assess the technical complexity of participating in
>>>> the OT.
>>>> I think it'd be good to elaborate on the exact flows that button mode
>>>> enables. (e.g. what happens when the user is not logged in to the IdP? Does
>>>> the browser automatically opens a separate window to handle that log in? Is
>>>> this something that the IdP should handle? If so, how?)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Specification
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * https://fedidcg.github.io/FedCM <https://fedidcg.github.io/FedCM>
>>>> This will be added as an extension. * Summary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * We plan to experiment with two new extensions for the Federated
>>>> Credential Management (FedCM) API: - Button Mode API - The button mode lets
>>>> websites trigger FedCM directly when a user clicks a button (like a
>>>> "Sign-in with IdP" button). This means FedCM will always display a visible
>>>> user interface for login, in contrast to the widget mode where no UI is
>>>> shown if a user’s login status is logged out.  - When the FedCM API is used
>>>> in "button mode" and a user isn't logged in, they'll be taken to the IdP
>>>> login screen (in a pop-up window). Since this happens in response to a
>>>> clear user action, the UI might even be more prominent (e.g., centered and
>>>> modal) compared to the more subtle UI of widget mode. - Use Other Account
>>>> API - With this API, an Identity Provider can request the browser to show a
>>>> button that allows users to choose other accounts. * Blink component
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * Blink>Identity>FedCM
>>>> <https://issues.chromium.org/u/1/issues?q=status:open%20componentid:1456331&s=created_time:desc>
>>>> * Search tags
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * fedcm <https://chromestatus.com/features#fedcm> * TAG review
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/935
>>>> <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/935>  * TAG review
>>>> status
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * Pending * Risks
>>>>
>>>> Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * These are extensions to the FedCM API. Apple and Mozilla have both
>>>> expressed a positive opinion on the initial FedCM API [1]. They have not
>>>> yet shipped but Mozilla is prototyping [2]. If a user agent chooses not to
>>>> implement these extensions, the sign-in flow should not be affected in that
>>>> user agent because developers can fallback to the existing federated
>>>> sign-in mechanisms. [1]
>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/URpYPPH-YQ4/m/bzghj9N3AQAJ
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/URpYPPH-YQ4/m/bzghj9N3AQAJ>
>>>> [2]
>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/mozilla.org/g/dev-platform/c/ncmUwK1uO98/m/COhPA4ZrAAAJ
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/mozilla.org/g/dev-platform/c/ncmUwK1uO98/m/COhPA4ZrAAAJ>
>>>> Gecko: No signal WebKit: No signal Web developers: Positive
>>>> (https://github.com/fedidcg/FedCM/issues/442
>>>> <https://github.com/fedidcg/FedCM/issues/442>) These features are being
>>>> developed to address existing feedback for the FedCM API. Other signals: *
>>>> Activation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * Similar to the FedCM API, we deliberately leave the bulk of the work
>>>> to the IdP to ensure that minimal RP change is needed.  This feature,
>>>> specifically, is one that can be currently controlled by IdP (via JS SDK
>>>> for “button mode”, via server-side config for “use other account”), so we
>>>> expect activation to have a similar profile as FedCM: immediately enabled
>>>> to websites (without redeployment) by IdPs making use of it (by redeploying
>>>> their JS SDKs). * Security
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * The button mode shares most of the security properties from the
>>>> widget mode. e.g. honoring CSP, CORS, using security headers, not asking
>>>> users to type in the browser UI etc. It’s worth noting that the pop-up
>>>> window has the same web platform properties as what one would get with
>>>> window.open(url,””,”popup,noopener,noreferrer”) that loads the login_url.
>>>> It is important to note that there's no communication allowed between the
>>>> website and this pop-up (e.g. no postMessage, no window.opener). We have
>>>> shipped LoginStatus API and Error API in FedCM that use this type of pop-up
>>>> window. * WebView application risks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of existing APIs, such
>>>> that it has potentially high risk for Android WebView-based applications?
>>>> None * Goals for experimentation
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * Gather data on whether a browser mediated sign in flow on a critical
>>>> user journey is well received by users and developers. We'd like to see how
>>>> the proposed UI/API play out and iterate on them to ship the API in its
>>>> best shape. * Ongoing technical constraints
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * None * Debuggability
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * Same as FedCM in general – console messages in devtools and general
>>>> JS debugging * Will this feature be supported on all six Blink
>>>> platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and Android WebView)?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * No FedCM API is not available in WebView * Is this feature fully
>>>> tested by web-platform-tests
>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * Not yet. We will continue adding tests before the experiment starts. * 
>>>> Flag
>>>> name on chrome://flags
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * FedCmButtonMode, FedCmUseOtherAccount * Finch feature name
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * kFedCmButtonMode kFedCmUseOtherAccount * Non-finch justification
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * None * Requires code in //chrome?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * True * Tracking bug
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * https://crbug.com/40284792 <https://crbug.com/40284792> * Launch bug
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * https://launch.corp.google.com/launch/4293366
>>>> <https://launch.corp.google.com/launch/4293366> * Estimated milestones
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * OriginTrial desktop last 126 OriginTrial desktop first 124
>>>> OriginTrial Android last 127 OriginTrial Android first 125 * Link to
>>>> entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> * https://chromestatus.com/feature/4689551782313984
>>>> <https://chromestatus.com/feature/4689551782313984> * Links to
>>>> previous Intent discussions
>>>>
>>>> Intent to prototype: https://groups.google.com/a/
>>>> chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CACh2XCPzJ1beiSbsmQqvu9x24zmf6
>>>> LkGuup%3DgPVyXEx%2Bux9%3Dyg%40mail.gmail.com
>>>>
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