LGTM to experiment from 127 to 133 inclusive On Tue, May 28, 2024 at 12:54 PM Di Zhang <dizha...@chromium.org> wrote:
> Thanks Mike. Your explanation makes sense and we are good with 6 > milestones to start. > We expect the deprecation trial period to be longer to give web users > enough time to adjust, but can request a renewal when the time comes. > > I have updated the Origin Trial period to start on 127 and end on 133. > > On Wednesday, May 22, 2024 at 7:00:52 PM UTC-7 Mike Taylor wrote: > >> Thanks Di - this is a useful clarification. >> >> You can request up to 6 milestones for a Deprecation Trial, and only need >> a single LGTM. Renewals are possible, with sufficient justification. >> >> That said, if you do think that 9 milestones is sufficient for your needs >> - that is also possible, but will require 3 LGTMs. If that is the route you >> would like to propose, can your let us know why you think 9 milestones is >> sufficient, and wouldn't require a renewal? What outreach or comms plans do >> you have in place to ensure that the previously broken sites will be ready >> for this change in ~9 months? >> >> Either way, please let us know how many (and which) milestonesyou are >> requesting for the deprecation trial. >> >> thanks! >> Mike >> On 5/13/24 2:27 PM, Di Zhang wrote: >> >> Sorry for missing information! I haven’t created a request for a >> Deprecation Trial before, which is what I intended this to be, and I missed >> some parts of the process. The chromestatus is located here, which is for >> the overall KeyboardFocusableScrollers feature: >> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5231964663578624. The origin trial >> section details why we are requesting a Deprecation trial for this feature, >> which I’ve copied below. I believe this answers the questions I’ve received >> here, but please let me know if anything else is missing! >> >> Summary >> >> The feature KeyboardFocusableScrollers changes the focusability of a >> scroll container. This feature includes the following changes: >> >> - >> >> Scrollers are click-focusable and programmatically-focusable by >> default. >> - >> >> Scrollers without focusable children are keyboard-focusable by >> default. >> >> This is an important improvement to help make scrollers and contents >> within scrollers more accessible to all users. >> >> We attempted to ship the above changes, and found that a limited number >> of sites had broken expectations around some of their components. As a >> result, we had to unship the feature to avoid this breakage. However, given >> the benefits mentioned above, we’d like to ship this feature again. >> To allow more time for the affected sites to migrate their components, we >> are requesting a Deprecation Trial. This trial (called >> “KeyboardFocusableScrollersOptOut”), when enabled, will disable the >> KeyboardFocusableScrollers feature. To give adequate time, we’d like to let >> this deprecation trial run for 9 months. It might be ok to limit this to >> 6-months, but would like the option to extend the depreciation period if >> needed. >> >> On Friday, May 10, 2024 at 12:38:47 PM UTC-7 Vladimir Levin wrote: >> >>> On Fri, May 10, 2024 at 2:18 PM Mike Taylor <miketa...@chromium.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Is there a chromestatus entry associated with this intent? There's a >>>> lot of information missing from this Intent (see >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/LwgSKPBivuM/m/0dRsXWhBAgAJ >>>> as what is typical) - could you reply with the missing info? >>>> >>>> (Did you use ChromeStatus to generate the email?) >>>> >>>> Also note that origin trials can only run for 6 milestones initially >>>> (see https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#origin-trials) >>>> - or are you requesting a deprecation trial? >>>> >>> FWIW, according to >>> https://www.chromium.org/blink/launching-features/#deprecation-trial, >>> deprecation trials also only run for up to 6 milestones before extensions >>> >>> >>>> On 5/10/24 12:36 PM, Di Zhang wrote: >>>> >>>> Contact emails >>>> >>>> dizha...@chromium.org >>>> >>>> dom-...@google.com >>>> >>>> *Experiment Goals*The feature KeyboardFocusableScrollers changes the >>>> focusability of a a scroll container. This is an important improvement to >>>> help make scrollers and contents within scrollers more accessible to all >>>> users. The goal of this experiment is to collect feedback on this >>>> change from users who might depend on the previous behavior (when a >>>> scroller is not focusable by default) and help them adapt to the new >>>> behavior which will ship in M126. Sites can use this Origin Trial to opt >>>> out of the KeyboardFocusableScrollers feature. >>>> *Experiment Risks*This experiment is to allow users to opt-out of the >>>> feature KeyboardFocusableScrollers. There is no risk to loss access to any >>>> important API or other functionality. >>>> *Ongoing Constraints*None >>>> >>>> >>>> OT desktop start126OT desktop end135OT Android start126OT Android end >>>> 135OT WebView startN/AOT WebView endN/A >>>> >>>> >>>> *Note: *The Intent to Ship for Keyboard Focusable Scrollers: >>>> >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/jzMA5vUqNDs/m/VbhNdHgQAgAJ >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/c12e3f31-bd5d-4666-ab2b-10db54f26c74n%40chromium.org >>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/c12e3f31-bd5d-4666-ab2b-10db54f26c74n%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. >>>> >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/d7825eb3-36bf-4755-a466-e909dfc20530%40chromium.org >>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/d7825eb3-36bf-4755-a466-e909dfc20530%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "blink-dev" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to blink-dev+unsubscr...@chromium.org. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/6480cb3b-1336-447b-ba07-36e202ab3b4cn%40chromium.org > <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/6480cb3b-1336-447b-ba07-36e202ab3b4cn%40chromium.org?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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