LGTM2

On Tuesday, May 21, 2024 at 2:11:37 PM UTC+2 Mike Taylor wrote:

> Thanks Liam!
>
> LGTM1 to ship.
> On 5/20/24 3:51 PM, Liam Brady wrote:
>
> Thanks for your feedback on this intent! We plan on modifying the 
> "Allow-Cross-Origin-Event-Reporting" response header to accept a boolean 
> instead of a string literal to match the preferred convention for response 
> headers.
>
> On Thursday, May 9, 2024 at 1:21:43 PM UTC-4 Liam Brady wrote:
>
>> Can I ask why string literal vs boolean?
>>
>>
>> I had done this to match the convention already being used for other 
>> Protected Audience-related response headers (such as 
>> Ad-Auction-Allowed/X-Allow-FLEDGE 
>> <https://source.chromium.org/chromium/chromium/src/+/main:content/services/auction_worklet/public/cpp/auction_downloader.cc;l=413-429;drc=b8ddddd3dfef89a597a4e89d8cc76bcf8a15d655>).
>>  
>> At the time of implementation, I wasn't aware of the preferred boolean 
>> convention of "?0" and "?1" defined in RFC8941 
>> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8941#name-booleans>. Even though this 
>> isn't what's preferred, I think it should still be fine to keep in place 
>> for now, and being consistent with the rest of the Protected Audience API 
>> is always a plus.
>>
>> On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 12:19 PM Mike Taylor <mike...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 5/9/24 12:13 PM, Liam Brady wrote:
>>>
>>> Can you clarify what the type is for this new header? It reads as if 
>>>> you're adding a String Item that looks like a boolean, rather than a 
>>>> Boolean Item. Is that correct? It doesn't seem to be actually defined in 
>>>> the spec. 
>>>
>>>
>>> This is meant to be a string literal that is either "true" or "false". I 
>>> have a spec PR <https://github.com/WICG/fenced-frame/pull/159> up to 
>>> formally define that and remove any confusion over what values it's 
>>> expecting. Thanks for calling this out!
>>>
>>> Can I ask why string literal vs boolean?
>>>
>>>
>>> This change would impact the ability of first parties to regulate and 
>>>> prevent reportEvent beacons. Although this requires mutual opt-in, I 
>>>> expect 
>>>> scenarios to eventually come up where a site owner wants to allow 
>>>> cross-origin reportEvent only for certain origins.
>>>
>>>
>>> To clarify the first party piece, control over sending reportEvent() 
>>> beacons rests within the worklet owner that invokes 
>>> registerAdBeacon()/registerAdMacro() i.e. seller/ buyer and the document 
>>> loaded with the main ad renderURL (i.e. the buyer/advertisers). The 
>>> first-party (i.e. the publishers) don't have control over reportEvent() 
>>> beacons since that is considered part of the overall Protected Audience 
>>> API, and this feature doesn't change that.
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 1:27 PM Mike Taylor <mike...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/8/24 11:30 AM, 'Liam Brady' via blink-dev wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Contact emails
>>>>
>>>> lbr...@google.com, shiva...@chromium.org, jka...@chromium.org
>>>>
>>>> Explainer(s)
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/pull/1134
>>>>
>>>> Spec(s)
>>>>
>>>> https://github.com/WICG/fenced-frame/pull/152
>>>>
>>>> Summary
>>>>
>>>> Ad frames (both fenced frames and urn-iframes) created through a 
>>>> Protected Audience auction, as well as their same-origin nested iframes, 
>>>> are allowed to call reportEvent() API 
>>>> <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/Fenced_Frames_Ads_Reporting.md#reportevent-preregistered-destination-url>
>>>>  
>>>> to send event-level reports. It's also important for third-parties on 
>>>> Protected Audience-created ads to have the same measurement and reporting 
>>>> capabilities for spam detection, brand safety, and measurement 
>>>> verification. However, the API as it exists currently has a same-origin 
>>>> child iframe restriction which poses a complication as described below.
>>>>
>>>> If an ad buyer wins an ad auction and its ad frame is displayed on a 
>>>> page, it might choose to embed a subframe that points to a third-party 
>>>> server that hosts the actual ad instead. With this use case, and with the 
>>>> current state of the reportEvent() API, the actual ad's document cannot 
>>>> directly call reportEvent() the way that its embedder can since the 
>>>> document is in a cross-origin nested iframe. Instead, it has to get its 
>>>> embedder to actually send the beacon by letting the embedder know via a 
>>>> postMessage. This will not be an ergonomic solution for this use case.
>>>>
>>>> With this change, a cross-origin subframe can opt in to sending 
>>>> reportEvent() beacons using its ancestor's reporting metadata by calling 
>>>> reportEvent() with the parameter crossOriginExposed=true. This is the same 
>>>> syntax as is currently used by the main render URL frame to opt in to 
>>>> sending cross-origin automatic beacons with data (this means the 
>>>> FenceEvent 
>>>> IDL will stay the same).
>>>>
>>>> The main ad render URL frame will opt in with a new 
>>>> "Allow-Cross-Origin-Event-Reporting" response header. Its valid values 
>>>> will 
>>>> be true and false, and will default to false when omitted. This will not 
>>>> be 
>>>> required for documents that are same-origin to the FencedFrameConfig's 
>>>> mapped url.
>>>>
>>>> Can you clarify what the type is for this new header? It reads as if 
>>>> you're adding a String Item that looks like a boolean, rather than a 
>>>> Boolean Item. Is that correct? It doesn't seem to be actually defined in 
>>>> the spec. 
>>>>
>>>> (I filed https://github.com/WICG/fenced-frame/issues/158 for that.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is a convenience change (not privacy impacting), as it's already 
>>>> possible (but cumbersome) for the third-party to postMessage the parent 
>>>> frame to send the report on their behalf. For security reasons, the 
>>>> proposal requires opt-ins from both the main ad frame and the cross-origin 
>>>> iframe.
>>>>
>>>> Blink component
>>>>
>>>> Blink>FencedFrames 
>>>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EFencedFrames>
>>>>
>>>> TAG reviews and status
>>>>
>>>> Fenced frames existing TAG review appended with these spec changes 
>>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/838# 
>>>> <https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/838#issuecomment-1792881253>
>>>>
>>>> Link to Origin Trial feedback summary
>>>>
>>>> No Origin Trial performed
>>>>
>>>> Is this feature supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, 
>>>> Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)?
>>>>
>>>> Supported on all the above platforms except Android WebView.
>>>>
>>>> Debuggability
>>>>
>>>> Additional debugging capabilities are not necessary for these feature 
>>>> changes.
>>>>
>>>> Risks
>>>>
>>>> Compatibility
>>>>
>>>> This is an added functionality and is backward compatible.
>>>>
>>>> Interoperability
>>>>
>>>> There are no interoperability risks as no other browsers have decided 
>>>> to implement these features yet. We have not received any standards 
>>>> positions from Mozilla 
>>>> <https://github.com/mozilla/standards-positions/issues/781> or Webkit 
>>>> <https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/173>.
>>>>
>>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests 
>>>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?
>>>>  
>>>> Link to test suite results from wpt.fyi. 
>>>>
>>>> Yes. New reportEvent() beacon tests have been added to test 
>>>> cross-origin beacons.
>>>>
>>>> fence-report-event-cross-origin-content-initiated.https.html (test 
>>>> <https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/master/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-content-initiated.https.html>)
>>>>  
>>>> (results 
>>>> <https://wpt.fyi/results/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-content-initiated.https.html>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> fence-report-event-cross-origin-nested-urn-iframe.https.html (test 
>>>> <https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/master/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-nested-urn-iframe.https.html>)
>>>>  
>>>> (results 
>>>> <https://wpt.fyi/results/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-nested-urn-iframe.https.html>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> fence-report-event-cross-origin-nested.https.html (test 
>>>> <https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/master/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-nested.https.html>)
>>>>  
>>>> (results 
>>>> <https://wpt.fyi/results/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-nested.https.html>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> fence-report-event-cross-origin-no-embedder-opt-in.https.html (test 
>>>> <https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/master/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-no-embedder-opt-in.https.html>)
>>>>  
>>>> (results 
>>>> <https://wpt.fyi/results/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-no-embedder-opt-in.https.html>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> fence-report-event-cross-origin-no-subframe-opt-in.https.html (test 
>>>> <https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/master/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-no-subframe-opt-in.https.html>)
>>>>  
>>>> (results 
>>>> <https://wpt.fyi/results/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-no-subframe-opt-in.https.html>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> fence-report-event-cross-origin-urn-iframe-content-initiated.https.html 
>>>> (test 
>>>> <https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/master/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-urn-iframe-content-initiated.https.html>)
>>>>  
>>>> (results 
>>>> <https://wpt.fyi/results/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-urn-iframe-content-initiated.https.html>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> fence-report-event-cross-origin-urn-iframe-no-embedder-opt-in.https.html 
>>>> (test 
>>>> <https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/master/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-urn-iframe-no-embedder-opt-in.https.html>)
>>>>  
>>>> (results 
>>>> <https://wpt.fyi/results/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-urn-iframe-no-embedder-opt-in.https.html>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> fence-report-event-cross-origin-urn-iframe-no-subframe-opt-in.https.html 
>>>> (test 
>>>> <https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/master/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-urn-iframe-no-subframe-opt-in.https.html>)
>>>>  
>>>> (results 
>>>> <https://wpt.fyi/results/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-urn-iframe-no-subframe-opt-in.https.html>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> fence-report-event-cross-origin-urn-iframe.https.html (test 
>>>> <https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/master/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-urn-iframe.https.html>)
>>>>  
>>>> (results 
>>>> <https://wpt.fyi/results/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin-urn-iframe.https.html>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> fence-report-event-cross-origin.https.html (test 
>>>> <https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/master/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin.https.html>)
>>>>  
>>>> (results 
>>>> <https://wpt.fyi/results/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-cross-origin.https.html>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> fence-report-event-sub-fencedframe.https.html (test 
>>>> <https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/blob/master/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-sub-fencedframe.https.html>)
>>>>  
>>>> (results 
>>>> <https://wpt.fyi/results/fenced-frame/fence-report-event-sub-fencedframe.https.html>
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> WPT directory for Fenced Frames: 
>>>> https://github.com/web-platform-tests/wpt/tree/master/fenced-frame
>>>>
>>>> Anticipated spec changes
>>>>
>>>> None
>>>>
>>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>
>>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5113611084365824
>>>>
>>>> Links to previous Intent discussions
>>>>
>>>> Fenced Frame Intent to prototype: 
>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/Ko9UXQYPgUE/m/URRsB-qvAAAJ
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Fenced Frame Intent to experiment: 
>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/y6G3cvKXjlg/m/Lcpmpi_LAgAJ
>>>>  
>>>>
>>>> Fenced Frame Intent to ship:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/tpw8wW0VenQ/m/mePLTiHlDQAJ
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