This doesn't show up in the shipping status in chromestatus so it's not on our radar. My LGTM1 still stands, but it can easily be forgotten, and we might miss some important review step, if it's not there.

/Daniel

On 2024-02-16 18:14, Joey Arhar wrote:
> Is this the relevant explainer (referenced from the PR below): https://github.com/WICG/sanitizer-api/blob/main/explainer.md

Yes, as far as I know.

> This seems positive, right?

Whoops, meant to put positive. I updated the chromestatus.

> Both of these look like "Shipped/Shipping", per https://bit.ly/blink-signals. That status is a little odd, because it doesn't look like they've actually made it to a stable release, but if I'm reading the bug trackers right they're both merged, so they're past "In Development".

Ok, I'll change them to shipped/shipping.

On Thu, Feb 15, 2024 at 9:35 AM Luke <lwar...@igalia.com> wrote:

    Just to keep everyone up to date, you can disregard my remarks
    above I've landed a patch which addresses the lack of trusted
    types protection, thanks for the quick review Joey.

    Regards,
    Luke

    On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 10:49:23 PM UTC Luke wrote:

        Hi,

        In it's current form Chromium's implementation of these
        functions bypasses trusted types protection.

        The below WPT tests cover this behaviour:

        
https://wpt.fyi/results/trusted-types/block-string-assignment-to-ShadowRoot-setHTMLUnsafe.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
        
<https://wpt.fyi/results/trusted-types/block-string-assignment-to-ShadowRoot-setHTMLUnsafe.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned>

        
https://wpt.fyi/results/trusted-types/block-string-assignment-to-Element-setHTMLUnsafe.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
        
<https://wpt.fyi/results/trusted-types/block-string-assignment-to-Element-setHTMLUnsafe.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned>
        
https://wpt.fyi/results/trusted-types/block-string-assignment-to-Document-parseHTMLUnsafe.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned
        
<https://wpt.fyi/results/trusted-types/block-string-assignment-to-Document-parseHTMLUnsafe.html?label=experimental&label=master&aligned>

        This should be addressed before shipping, else it will be an
        unexpected security regression.

        On Wednesday, February 14, 2024 at 10:23:01 PM UTC Vladimir
        Levin wrote:

            On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 1:53 PM Jeffrey Yasskin
            <jyas...@chromium.org> wrote:

                Non-API-owner opinions inline:

                On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 1:42 PM 'Vladimir Levin' via
                blink-dev <blin...@chromium.org> wrote:

                    I just had some clarifying questions

                    On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 1:13 PM Joey Arhar
                    <jar...@chromium.org> wrote:

                        Some additional notes:
                        - This API is tested in the declarative
                        ShadowDOM tests in interop2024, and it is
                        counting against us to not have it enabled by
                        default.
                        - The future sanitization options will be
                        added as an optional second parameter to both
                        methods, so there will not be any compat
                        issues with shipping now.

                        On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 1:11 PM Joey Arhar
                        <jar...@chromium.org> wrote:


                                    Contact emails

                            jar...@chromium.org


                                    Explainer

                            None


                    Is this the relevant explainer (referenced from
                    the PR below):
                    https://github.com/WICG/sanitizer-api/blob/main/explainer.md



                                    Specification

                            
https://html.spec.whatwg.org/C/#unsafe-html-parsing-methods

                            https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/9538


                                    Summary

                            The setHTMLUnsafe and parseHTMLUnsafe
                            methods allow Declarative ShadowDOM to be
                            used from javascript. In the future, they
                            may also get new parameters for sanitization.



                                    Blink component

                            Blink>HTML
                            
<https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink%3EHTML>


                                    TAG review

                            None


                                    TAG review status

                            Not applicable


                    There seems to be consensus within browser vendors
                    that this is a good idea, but I'm just wondering
                    why you decided against filing TAG here?


                IMO, either Firefox or Safari folks should have filed
                a TAG review for this before they merged their
                patches. Now that they've merged, I think it falls
                into the "[already specified && already shipped]"
                exception category
                
<https://www.chromium.org/blink/guidelines/api-owners/process-exceptions/>,
                and it's probably too fixed to ask the TAG to spend
                time on it.


            (also non-api-owner, but responding anyway): if that is in
            fact shipping then I agree that this should be the
            exception here, thanks.


                                    Risks



                                    Interoperability and Compatibility

                            None



                            /Gecko/: No signal
                            
(https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1850675)
                            
https://github.com/whatwg/html/pull/9538#issuecomment-1728947778


                    This seems positive, right?


                            /WebKit/: Positive
                            (https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=261143)


                    I'm not sure how to read this properly, but is
                    this a positive signal or "shipped/shipping" signal?


                Both of these look like "Shipped/Shipping", per
                https://bit.ly/blink-signals. That status is a little
                odd, because it doesn't look like they've actually
                made it to a stable release, but if I'm reading the
                bug trackers right they're both merged, so they're
                past "In Development".


            Yeah, that's my thought here too. My understanding is that
            all of the patches here are merged, but I just wanted to
            double check in case I'm misunderstanding what those bugs
            are implying.

                            /Web developers/: No signals

                            /Other signals/:


                                    Ergonomics

                            This API will likely be used in tandem
                            with Declarative ShadowDOM. The default
                            usage of this API will not make it hard
                            for chrome to maintain good performance.



                                    Activation

                            It will not be challenging for developers
                            to use this feature immediately.



                                    Security

                            There are no security risks. This API just
                            does declarative ShadowDOM. There is an
                            "unsafe" in the name because there are
                            future plans to add sanitization options.
                            https://github.com/WICG/sanitizer-api/issues/185
                            https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/8627
                            https://github.com/whatwg/html/issues/8759



                                    WebView application risks

                            Does this intent deprecate or change
                            behavior of existing APIs, such that it
                            has potentially high risk for Android
                            WebView-based applications?

                            None



                                    Debuggability

                            This API does not need any special
                            DevTools features. You can call the method
                            from the console panel.



                                    Will this feature be supported on
                                    all six Blink platforms (Windows,
                                    Mac, Linux, ChromeOS, Android, and
                                    Android WebView)?

                            Yes


                                    Is this feature fully tested by
                                    web-platform-tests
                                    
<https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/main/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md>?

                            Yes


                                    Flag name on chrome://flags

                            HTMLUnsafeMethods


                                    Finch feature name

                            HTMLUnsafeMethods


                                    Requires code in //chrome?

                            False


                                    Estimated milestones

                            DevTrial on desktop         120

                            DevTrial on Android         120



                                    Anticipated spec changes

                            Open questions about a feature may be a
                            source of future web compat or interop
                            issues. Please list open issues (e.g.
                            links to known github issues in the
                            project for the feature specification)
                            whose resolution may introduce web
                            compat/interop risk (e.g., changing to
                            naming or structure of the API in a
                            non-backward-compatible way).

                            None


                                    Link to entry on the Chrome
                                    Platform Status

                            https://chromestatus.com/feature/6560361081995264

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