Good question. +François Beaufort <[email protected]> who is the editor of the video picture-in-picture spec who might have more insight
On Thu, Oct 12, 2023 at 9:01 AM Chris Harrelson <[email protected]> wrote: > Are there official and up-to-date standards positions from Firefox and > Webkit about picture-in-picture in general? (setting aside document > picture-in-picture). The Mozilla position from quite a while ago is > "defer". If not, and you think their stance might have changed, please file > a new position request for picture-in-picture generally. > > On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 9:29 PM Yoav Weiss <[email protected]> wrote: > >> LGTM1 >> >> On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 11:26 PM Tommy Steimel <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2023 at 7:43 AM Yoav Weiss <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Friday, October 6, 2023 at 12:55:09 AM UTC+2 [email protected] >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Please update your chromestatus entry to trigger the other 5 review >>>> categories for this intent. I think it's probably the case that you ended >>>> up with the wrong feature category and need to update it, sorry for any >>>> confusion. @Jason Robbins <[email protected]> also. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 4, 2023 at 3:35 PM 'Tommy Steimel' via blink-dev < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Contact emails >>>> >>>> [email protected], [email protected] >>>> >>>> Explainer >>>> >>>> https://github.com/w3c/mediasession/issues/294 >>>> >>>> >>>> Can you explain what this action does and how developers are likely to >>>> use it? >>>> >>> >>> Sure. In general, websites can register handlers on the Media Session >>> for various actions (e.g. "nexttrack"). The UA can then trigger those >>> actions on the page via browser UI or other user actions (e.g. a next track >>> button in the browser native UI or if the user presses the "next track" key >>> on their keyboard). For the case of 'enterpictureinpicture', the website >>> would register a handler for that action and the UA can trigger it when >>> appropriate (e.g. Chrome has a picture-in-picture button in its global >>> media controls UI). The website can use that handler to call >>> requestPictureInPicture on a video element or request a document >>> picture-in-picture window. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Specification >>>> >>>> https://github.com/w3c/mediasession/pull/295 >>>> >>>> >>>> What's blocking the PR from landing? >>>> >>> >>> I was waiting on review from the other Media Session author. I pinged >>> them today and have landed the PR. >>> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> API spec >>>> >>>> Yes >>>> >>>> Summary >>>> >>>> Adds an 'enterpictureinpicture' action to the Media Session API. >>>> Websites can register an action handler which can be used to open a >>>> Picture-in-Picture or Document Picture-in-Picture window. >>>> >>>> Blink component >>>> >>>> Blink>Media>Session >>>> >>>> TAG review >>>> >>>> This small addition to the Media Session API doesn’t seem to qualify >>>> for a TAG review. >>>> >>>> Note that one for video conferencing actions was approved previously at >>>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/608 >>>> >>>> TAG review status >>>> >>>> N/A >>>> >>>> Debuggability >>>> >>>> No DevTools changes are required, treated like any other attribute/enum. >>>> >>>> Risks >>>> >>>> >>>> Interoperability and Compatibility >>>> It’s low risk as it's a small addition to an existing API that both >>>> Gecko and WebKit approve of. >>>> >>>> >>>> Signals from other implementations (Gecko, WebKit): >>>> >>>> Gecko: No signal >>>> >>>> WebKit: No signal - Generally positive feedback when discussed in the >>>> Media WG, but no official position pursued due to the small nature of the >>>> change >>>> >>>> Web / Framework developers: Positive >>>> >>>> (https://github.com/WICG/document-picture-in-picture/issues/96) >>>> >>>> The above citation is one example amongst many where developers want to >>>> be able to initiate pip through other means (e.g. automatically when >>>> switching tabs or when a picture-in-picture button is pressed in browser >>>> UI), and having a media session action for this enables the UA to allow the >>>> website to open a picture-in-picture window in these cases >>>> >>>> >>>> Ergonomics: >>>> >>>> N/A: small addition to an enum of an existing API >>>> >>>> Activation: >>>> >>>> Web developers will be able to simply set/unset a media session action >>>> handler for “enterpictureinpicture” to make use of this change. When the >>>> action name is not supported, it raises a TypeError which can be caught to >>>> detect feature support. >>>> >>>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests? >>>> >>>> https://wpt.fyi/results/mediasession/setactionhandler.html >>>> >>>> Tracking bug >>>> >>>> https://crbug.com/1457056 >>>> >>>> Estimated milestones >>>> >>>> Shipping on desktop 120 >>>> >>>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>>> >>>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/6245717716238336 >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "blink-dev" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/a/ >>>> chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAE-AwAr3XMLjkds47PAf5_n- >>>> m%2Bv5mLXKBbX5211E_qs-W3sqTA%40mail.gmail.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/d/msgid/blink-dev/CAE-AwAr3XMLjkds47PAf5_n-m%2Bv5mLXKBbX5211E_qs-W3sqTA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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