Hi Robin,

This intent-to-ship is currently on hold while I investigate further the
use cases and compatibility risk.

On Thu, Jun 22, 2023 at 8:09 AM Robin Haegeman <ro...@3daimtrainer.com>
wrote:

> What's the latest on this topic? Is this still an ongoing discussion or is
> it decided to become deprecated from Chrome 117 onwards? Our application
> relies heavily on it so ideally we have at least a couple of months to
> adapt to this (and have some warnings in the console first a couple of
> releases before). Chrome 117 seems rather fast in my opinion to just drop
> support for a working CSS property, even if the usage is low.
> On Monday, 24 April 2023 at 23:09:35 UTC+2 Malte Nuhn wrote:
>
>> Not to our knowledge, but we’ll dig deep into this.
>>
>> However, I can confirm that simply using transform: scale is not one of
>> them: I’ve just done this in our app, and immediately run into the same
>> issues we’d seen the last time we tried:  scroll performance is awful,
>> there is scroll jumpiness (especially when zoomed in deeply, probably
>> something rounding-related), and pixelation. It basically defeats the
>> purpose of working zoomed in .
>>
>> There may be ways to work around this we can implement it, or other
>> approaches altogether; right now we don’t know what those would be but as I
>> indicated we’ll dig in and report back. (Likewise, if anyone has ideas we
>> can try them pretty easily).
>>
>>
>>
>> On 24 Apr 2023, at 17:47, Yoav Weiss <yoav...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>
>> Are there alternative ways to achieve the same effect that don't suffer
>> from blurriness or other UX issues?
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 6:25 PM Malte Nuhn <malte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Similarly, online web design and authoring tools (like Framer, or our
>>> OSS project at Utopia) rely on the zoom property for working when "zoomed
>>> in". In Firefox (w/ scale as fallback) the result is a degraded (eg blurry)
>>> experience - sometimes severely so, especially when shadows, serif fonts,
>>> and SVGs are involved.
>>>
>>> In tools like these, the standard pattern is to use transform: scale
>>> when the user is zoomed out ( < 100%) in the UI, and zoom when the user is
>>> zoomed in, for maximum fidelity.
>>>
>>> FWIW I only this week discovered that zoom property removal was (back)
>>> on the agenda and imminent. I suspect authors of the other tools are
>>> similarly unaware.
>>> On Monday, April 24, 2023 at 3:24:39 PM UTC+1 noam.h...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for sharing Noam, that's good to know! So is Excel Online
>>>>> unsupported or completely broken for Firefox users then?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The feature is disabled for Firefox. Since it represents a very small
>>>> fraction of our users it is less of a concern.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 5:04 PM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 9:50 AM Noam Helfman <noam.h...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to point out that Microsoft Excel Online utilizes zoom
>>>>>> CSS property heavily to perform the Excel grid zoom operations.
>>>>>> Removing it would completely break our zoom functionality in the
>>>>>> product and impact 100s of millions of users.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for sharing Noam, that's good to know! So is Excel Online
>>>>> unsupported or completely broken for Firefox users then?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 3:05 AM Christoph Nakazawa <
>>>>> christo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> In a previous response it was stated that the removal of this
>>>>>> property leads to only a small amount of code being removed, which I 
>>>>>> assume
>>>>>> also means that there is little impact on reducing complexity in the
>>>>>> engine. Maybe I missed it but is there an in-depth explanation of the
>>>>>> intention and impact behind this change?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From my perspective as an outside observer / approver, the strongest
>>>>> argument I see for doing this is cross-browser interoperability. That 
>>>>> could
>>>>> also be achieved by getting a specification and tests written and support
>>>>> added to Firefox. I don't personally think we should accept the status quo
>>>>> of Chrome supporting this unspecified API indefinitely as it doesn't meet
>>>>> our standards
>>>>> <https://www.chromium.org/blink/guidelines/web-platform-changes-guidelines/>
>>>>> for "plausible interoperability" between engines. It looks like +Rossen on
>>>>> the Edge team started an effort to specify the feature
>>>>> <https://github.com/atanassov/css-zoom>, but it stalled 8 years ago.
>>>>> If this feature is important to Microsoft Office, then one option could be
>>>>> for the Edge team to complete that work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 10:42:17 PM UTC+3 Chris Harrelson
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 12:01 PM Alex Russell <sligh...@chromium.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I agree that this is probably too risky right now. Are you willing
>>>>>>>> to modify the plan you posted to gate #4 on a UKM analysis and/or 
>>>>>>>> driving
>>>>>>>> use below a negotiated threshold, Chris?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I can do the UKM analysis if that's needed. As for threshold, I
>>>>>>> think a randomized analysis percentage multiplied by the current 
>>>>>>> UseCounter
>>>>>>> is good enough if the result is below some "safe enough" threshold. The
>>>>>>> review of 62 sites, plus the fact that Firefox does not support this
>>>>>>> feature, already makes me much more positive on success among the sites
>>>>>>> that are measured by use counters, and some randomized UKM analysis 
>>>>>>> could
>>>>>>> do even more.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, April 20, 2023 at 11:15:32 AM UTC-7 Chris Harrelson
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Comments below, but here is a concrete shipping plan proposal:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1. Blog post describing what is happening, why, and how to fix
>>>>>>>>> your code.
>>>>>>>>> 2. Start a deprecation for 3 milestones (M114-116), with a
>>>>>>>>> devtools console warning. Notify enterprises and webview clients of 
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> deprecation.
>>>>>>>>> 3. In parallel with #2: turn it off now via finch for canary/dev,
>>>>>>>>> then later beta, to see if we get bug reports.
>>>>>>>>> 4. Assuming no bug reports that raise new concerns, ship the
>>>>>>>>> change in M117.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 9:01 AM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 6:53 PM Chris Harrelson <
>>>>>>>>>> chri...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mike said: *"It would also be good to go through all duplicates
>>>>>>>>>>> and "See Also" bugs linked at
>>>>>>>>>>> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390936
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=390936> and see how 
>>>>>>>>>>> we fare
>>>>>>>>>>> with a build that has zoom disabled."*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Good idea. I checked all 37 of the sites referenced from that
>>>>>>>>>>> issue. I found only 3 that were even somewhat broken, and only 2 
>>>>>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>>>>>> there was something substantial (an "8-ball" image that was too 
>>>>>>>>>>> big, and a
>>>>>>>>>>> facebook login that was cut off at some viewport sizes). Most sites 
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't
>>>>>>>>>>> have any zoom at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I also updated the "use cases" section with more use cases found
>>>>>>>>>>> by reviewing the sites.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yoav said:* "Is it possible to also expose the usecounter as
>>>>>>>>>>> UKM, and see the usage distribution? Given the high usage 
>>>>>>>>>>> percentage, it
>>>>>>>>>>> can be reassuring to see that a) No large sites get broken by this 
>>>>>>>>>>> b) Long
>>>>>>>>>>> tail sampling from UKM matches what y'all saw in HA"*
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It's possible. Based on the data I've provided (including
>>>>>>>>>>> response to Mike above), do you think it's needed?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 2:39 PM Rick Byers <rby...@chromium.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> First, you'll have a flag so we can kill-switch it if we see
>>>>>>>>>>>> any non-trivial breakage in practice, right?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Already in place. CSSZoom is a base::Feature in addition to a
>>>>>>>>>>> RuntimeEnabledFeature.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> WebView seems particularly risky, perhaps we should separate
>>>>>>>>>>>> that out and leave it enabled on WebView at least to start?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm willing to do that as a first step.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> What about enterprise, likely to be higher risk / needing a
>>>>>>>>>>>> mitigation strategy?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll add an enterprise flag for it, and ask for this change to
>>>>>>>>>>> be highlighted in enterprise release notes. WDYT, good enough?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Works for me.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From the HA analysis, were you able to get any upper bound on the
>>>>>>>>>>>> fraction of sites with significant (i.e. usability impacting) 
>>>>>>>>>>>> breakage? Eg.
>>>>>>>>>>>> can we spot check 100 pages that hit the counter to see if any 
>>>>>>>>>>>> look really
>>>>>>>>>>>> broken? Alternately the UKM analysis Yoav suggests could help. 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've been
>>>>>>>>>>>> planning on figuring out how to do a UKM usage distribution 
>>>>>>>>>>>> analysis - this
>>>>>>>>>>>> might make a good candidate.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I spot checked 62 sites from HTTPArchive and from the Mozilla
>>>>>>>>>>> bug. In my view, none were terribly broken, and almost all were 
>>>>>>>>>>> unaffected
>>>>>>>>>>> or had trivial changes. According to foolip's methodology
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://sample-size.net/confidence-interval-proportion/> with
>>>>>>>>>>> N=62 and x=0, that means that we've reduced the risk from the use 
>>>>>>>>>>> counter
>>>>>>>>>>> of 0.5% to 0.028%.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> To get to 0.001% I'd need a lot more N, technically speaking.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> However, in basically all of the cases zoom was applied either
>>>>>>>>>>> to very few elements or to the body; in the latter the site still 
>>>>>>>>>>> renders
>>>>>>>>>>> fine (because browser zoom uses the same technique), and for the 
>>>>>>>>>>> others
>>>>>>>>>>> it's at best cosmetic in almost all cases.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> That's great to hear. Given the usage is pretty high and there's
>>>>>>>>>> at least some uncertainty among developers with how to replace their 
>>>>>>>>>> use of
>>>>>>>>>> zoom (Christoph's note), WDYT about doing a blog post warning about 
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> removal of zoom and showing how to replace it with transforms?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure, I can do that. Note that some sites already put
>>>>>>>>> -moz-transform and zoom in their style sheet, so there is evidence 
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> transform works ok for some use cases.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Also, should we consider a deprecation period with deprecation
>>>>>>>>>> warnings in the console and available to the reporting API? Or is 
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> likely to be so noisy with most cases being false positives that it 
>>>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>>>> be net harmful do you think?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> A deprecation period makes sense. (Note that Firefox already has
>>>>>>>>> warnings in their devtools not to use this feature.)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 17, 2023 at 4:55 PM Morten Stenshorne <
>>>>>>>>>>>> mste...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris Harrelson <chri...@chromium.org> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > On Sun, Apr 16, 2023 at 11:45 PM Morten Stenshorne <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mste...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  Chris Harrelson <chri...@chromium.org> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  > On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 5:09 PM PhistucK <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> phis...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Any alternatives? I thought there was a section in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> intent templates for that...
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  > One alternative for the use case mentioned in my earlier
>>>>>>>>>>>>> email is to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  > apply a CSS transform instead. This will magnify the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> subtree visually
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  > but not cause a zoom-style layout change.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  The fact that a CSS transform doesn't affect layout,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whereas 'zoom'
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  does, means that we'll paginate (fragment) properly with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'zoom', but not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  with transforms, since they are applied after fragmentation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1], causing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  content to be sliced across fragmentainer boundaries, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the actual
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  page/column breaks (as far as layout is concerned) are
>>>>>>>>>>>>> shifted away from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  the fragmentainer edges visually, and will appear in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> middle of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  page/column, for instance.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  [1] https://www.w3.org/TR/css-break-3/#transforms (never
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mind the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  example there; it's not too relevant for this discussion,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but I can
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  provide one if you want)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Agreed that this is a difference. If a developer wants the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> result to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > flow through fragmentation, they'll have to use the second
>>>>>>>>>>>>> alternative
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > I suggested.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > But in terms of web compat, I don't think this situation is
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > to worry about (e.g. I didn't see any fragmentation when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reviewing 25
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > random sites linked to from chromestatus.com).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But as soon as someone prints any of those sites, there'll be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fragmentation.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> That said, I couldn't find anything bad on those sites,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> either. I was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking that if it's actually okay to replace zoom with a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> scale
>>>>>>>>>>>>> transform, we really need authors to make such elements
>>>>>>>>>>>>> monolithic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (because any break point inserted inside a transformed element
>>>>>>>>>>>>> will more
>>>>>>>>>>>>> likely than not end up in the middle of some page, rather than
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> actual page boundary). So I changed the engine locally to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> treat zoom !=
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 as monolithic. But that didn't make any of sites that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried look any
>>>>>>>>>>>>> worse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  > Another alternative is for the developer to multiply the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> numbers in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  > their CSS properties via calc + variables.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  That alternative should always work, but more cumbersome
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  authors, I suppose?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> > Yes, a bit more cumbersome, but interoperable across all
>>>>>>>>>>>>> browser engines.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  On Sat, Apr 15, 2023 at 1:03 AM Chris Harrelson <
>>>>>>>>>>>>> chri...@chromium.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Contact emails
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  chri...@chromium.org
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Specification
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/zoom
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Summary
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Removes support for the non-standard "zoom" CSS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> property. This CSS property causes computed lengths for an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> element to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiplied by
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  the specified zoom factor.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Blink component
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Blink>CSS
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  TAG review
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  None
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  TAG review status
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Not applicable
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Risks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Interoperability and Compatibility
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  This feature is only available in Webkit and Blink-based
>>>>>>>>>>>>> browsers, and has been present in Chrome since the beginning. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Usage is a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> little above
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  0.5% of page loads:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://chromestatus.com/metrics/feature/timeline/popularity/3578
>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, research shows that sites in HTTPArchive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  triggering the feature mostly don't even seem to use it,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and those that do appear to always use it in a way that works 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine without
>>>>>>>>>>>>> zoom applied
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  - worst case, just a very minor change to the size of a
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tiny number of UI elements, but the UX is basically the same. See:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cmbXpjAcXAht2ufi7bNKy-rbVNveqaf0UzeYg_DIMNA/edit#
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Gecko: Shipped/Shipping (Firefox never supported the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature.)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  WebKit: No signal (
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/WebKit/standards-positions/issues/170)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Web developers: Some web developers like the feature, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> particular for the use case of zooming in content in a legible 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> way with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsive
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  design. See comments regarding that in this issue;
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5623
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Other signals: The CSSWG has decided to not specify this
>>>>>>>>>>>>> feature: https://github.com/w3c/csswg-drafts/issues/5623
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Ergonomics
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  See "other views" section.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Activation
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  N/A
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Security
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  None
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  WebView application risks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Does this intent deprecate or change behavior of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> existing APIs, such that it has potentially high risk for Android
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WebView-based applications?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Maybe. WebView-based apps might use this feature.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Debuggability
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Sites should be able to see that zoom no longer applies
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to elements in devtools, though there is no warning planned.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Will this feature be supported on all six Blink
>>>>>>>>>>>>> platforms (Windows, Mac, Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WebView)?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Yes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  No
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Flag name
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  CSSZoom
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Requires code in //chrome?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  False
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Sample links
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  https://output.jsbin.com/yimuwax
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Estimated milestones
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >   Shipping on desktop  114
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >   DevTrial on desktop  114
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >   Shipping on Android  114
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >   DevTrial on Android  114
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >   Shipping on WebView  114
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Anticipated spec changes
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Open questions about a feature may be a source of future
>>>>>>>>>>>>> web compat or interop issues. Please list open issues (e.g. links 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to known
>>>>>>>>>>>>> github
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  issues in the project for the feature specification)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whose resolution may introduce web compat/interop risk (e.g., 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> naming or
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  structure of the API in a non-backward-compatible way).
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  None
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  https://chromestatus.com/feature/6535859207143424
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >  >  Links to previous Intent discussions
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