Hey Paul, Some questions:
1. Were/are page loads capped at 0.5%? 2. What is the plan (if any) to scale up % of page loads? 3. Will FLEDGE be promoted to M101 Stable on 4/26 <https://chromiumdash.appspot.com/schedule>? Thank you, Geoff On Thursday, March 31, 2022 at 5:38:49 AM UTC-6 Paul Jensen wrote: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 5:53 AM Yoav Weiss <yoav...@chromium.org> wrote: > >> >> >> On Friday, March 25, 2022 at 11:46:45 PM UTC+1 Paul Jensen wrote: >> >>> Contact emails >>> >>> paulj...@chromium.org <https://groups.google.com/>, kle...@google.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/> >>> >>> Developers interested in the FLEDGE API can also join the FLEDGE API >>> announcements >>> <https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/fledge-api-announce> group >>> for updates and announcements. >>> >>> Explainer >>> >>> https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/master/FLEDGE.md >>> >>> Specification >>> >>> May be heavily influenced by origin trial feedback, so not yet started. >>> >>> Summary >>> >>> FLEDGE provides a privacy advancing API to facilitate interest group >>> based advertising. FLEDGE shifts the interest data and the final ad >>> decision browser-side instead of server-side, offering many advantages: >>> strong privacy guarantees, as well as time limits on group membership, >>> transparency into how the advertiser interest groups are built and used, >>> and granular or global controls over this type of ad targeting. >>> >>> Blink component >>> >>> Blink >>> <https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/list?q=component:Blink> >>> >>> TAG review >>> >>> https://github.com/w3ctag/design-reviews/issues/723 >>> >>> (The first “F” and last “E” in FLEDGE stand for First Experiment, as >>> such FLEDGE specifies a prototype for ads serving in the TURTLEDOVE family, >>> so the TAG review request was made for the overall family, TURTLEDOVE, >>> rather than the first experiment specification, FLEDGE.) >>> >>> TAG review status >>> >>> Pending >>> >>> Risks >>> Interoperability >>> >>> Gecko: No signal >>> >>> WebKit: No signal >>> >>> Edge: Edge is also exploring interest group based advertising, namely >>> with the PARAKEET proposal >>> <https://github.com/WICG/privacy-preserving-ads/blob/main/Parakeet.md>. >>> PARAKEET shares much of its API with FLEDGE but has a different trust >>> model. Deployment experience is necessary to inform the choice between the >>> trust models. >>> >>> Web developers: Significant interest from many web advertising >>> technology developers. WICG FLEDGE calls >>> <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/issues/88> are heavily attended. >>> Interest in FLEDGE is further evidenced by the many related discussions >>> and proposals that FLEDGE design draws from, most notably: >>> >>> - >>> >>> The original TURTLEDOVE >>> <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/Original-TURTLEDOVE.md> >>> from Chrome. >>> - >>> >>> SPARROW <https://github.com/WICG/sparrow> from Criteo. >>> - >>> >>> Outcome-based TURTLEDOVE >>> <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/OUTCOME_BASED.md> and >>> Product-level >>> TURTLEDOVE >>> <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/PRODUCT_LEVEL.md> from >>> RTB House. >>> - >>> >>> Dovekey >>> <https://github.com/google/ads-privacy/tree/master/proposals/dovekey> >>> from Google Ads. >>> - >>> >>> PARRROT >>> >>> <https://github.com/prebid/identity-gatekeeper/blob/master/proposals/PARRROT.md> >>> >>> from Magnite. >>> - >>> >>> TERN <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/TERN.md> from >>> NextRoll. >>> >>> >>> Compatibility and WebView Application Risks >>> >>> FLEDGE does not deprecate or change existing web behavior, so there >>> should be no compatibility risk. >>> >>> Activation >>> >>> Successful testing of FLEDGE in-browser ad auctions requires >>> participation from both parties selling ad space and advertisers buying ad >>> space. This level of cooperation during an origin trial is a heavy lift, >>> but one that seems feasible given the high level of interest we’ve seen >>> from ad techs. >>> >>> Security >>> >>> FLEDGE involves downloading and running JavaScript functions, referred >>> to as worklets. Chrome runs worklets from different origins in separate >>> processes in very constrained environments to limit security >>> vulnerabilities. You can read more about these constraints and security >>> considerations here >>> <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/Original-TURTLEDOVE.md#security-considerations> >>> . >>> >>> Privacy >>> >>> Unlike third-party cookies which are readable across sites, FLEDGE >>> intends to keep interest group information from being exposed to sites. For >>> example this is why there is no navigator.getAdInterestGroups() API. FLEDGE >>> worklets, which can read individual interest groups, are isolated and >>> cannot access the network, access storage or postMessage() to other >>> contexts. As the proposed first FLEDGE origin trial details document >>> <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/Proposed_First_FLEDGE_OT_Details.md> >>> >>> discusses, this first origin trial will not initially enable all of the >>> isolation and privacy controls in order to ease developer testing. Over >>> time, these privacy protections will be added as we introduce new releases. >>> To protect user privacy and honor user choice, we will not enable this >>> first origin trial for users that have disabled 3rd party cookies. We >>> anticipate that this will also help ad-techs to more realistically compare >>> their existing ad selection methods relying on third-party cookie >>> availability. Privacy considerations for the overall TURTLEDOVE family are >>> discussed here >>> <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/Original-TURTLEDOVE.md#privacy-considerations> >>> . >>> >>> Browser Performance >>> >>> If advertisers place users into large numbers of interest groups, there >>> is a risk of on-device FLEDGE ad auctions consuming excessive amounts of >>> processing resources which could make the auctions introduce significant >>> latency into the ad serving process, or slowing down the overall browsing >>> experience. This is an area of intense discussion, investigation, and >>> improvement. >>> >>> Goals for experimentation >>> >>> Shifting interest data and final ad decision browser-side instead of >>> server-side represents a major shift in interest group based advertising. >>> We hope to get feedback from ad tech on FLEDGE’s effectiveness and >>> performance. >>> >>> Experiment Configuration >>> >>> The origin trial for this experiment will be shared among various >>> Privacy Sandbox APIs. Our goal is to allow for coordinated experiments to >>> be run by multiple different sites, across multiple APIs in one OT. >>> >>> This shared origin trial, Privacy Sandbox Ads APIs, will be a >>> third-party origin trial. To ensure that developers can run coordinated >>> experiments without concern for exceeding page load usage thresholds, this >>> Origin Trial will be available for a subset of users by default. Therefore, >>> it will be necessary to feature test to ensure that the API surface you >>> want to use is available after providing your OT token. A second advantage >>> of this configuration is that different experimenters will experiment with >>> the same users, which enables coordination for APIs like FLEDGE across >>> third parties. >>> >>> Ongoing technical constraints >>> >>> FLEDGE depends on several other in-development web technologies, e.g. >>> Fenced Frames, trusted key-value servers, and aggregate reporting. To ease >>> developer testing and measurement, this first FLEDGE origin trial will not >>> require use of these other in-development web technologies. For details of >>> exactly what we’re proposing including in this first FLEDGE origin trial >>> and why please read >>> https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/Proposed_First_FLEDGE_OT_Details.md >>> >>> Debuggability >>> >>> FLEDGE worklets can be debugged in Chrome’s Developer tools, instructions >>> here >>> <https://developer.chrome.com/blog/fledge-api/#debug-fledge-worklets>. >>> >>> FLEDGE interest groups can also be viewed in Chrome’s Developer tools: >>> in the "Application" tab, there is an "Interest Groups" item on the left >>> side-bar that, when clicked, should display all interest groups that this >>> page interacted with, e.g. when a page joins/leaves an interest group, bids >>> on an auction, or wins an auction on this page then the interest group >>> should show up. >>> >>> Will this feature be supported on all six Blink platforms (Windows, Mac, >>> Linux, Chrome OS, Android, and Android WebView)? >>> >>> No, this origin trial will be supported on all platforms except Android >>> for reasons discussed here >>> <https://github.com/WICG/turtledove/blob/main/Proposed_First_FLEDGE_OT_Details.md#mobile-devices> >>> . >>> >>> Is this feature fully tested by web-platform-tests >>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >>> ? >>> >>> No. More web-platform-test >>> <https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/testing/web_platform_tests.md> >>> >>> coverage is expected when the specification is closer to completion. >>> >>> Flag name >>> >>> privacy-sandbox-ads-apis >>> >>> Requires code in //chrome? >>> >>> Nearly all code is outside //chrome, the exception being the related >>> Privacy Sandbox Settings UI. >>> >>> Launch bug >>> >>> https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1181739 >>> >>> Estimated milestones >>> >>> We hope to start the Origin Trial sometime during M101 beta. We plan to >>> continue the Origin Trial until at least M104 to give developers time to >>> test the API and provide feedback. Once we are confident that the APIs are >>> working properly, we will transition the OT from beta to stable channel. >>> >> >> Same question as on >> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/jEnNpideO1Y/m/5gSCiXUtAQAJ >> >> regarding OT duration. >> > > We're planning to start in M101 beta. We plan to progress to stable in > M101 or later, if issues arise, and to continue the origin trial through > M104, inclusive. > > >> >> >>> Link to entry on the Chrome Platform Status >>> >>> https://chromestatus.com/feature/5733583115255808 >>> >>> Links to previous Intent discussionsIntent to prototype: >>> https://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/g/blink-dev/c/w9hm8eQCmNI >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "blink-dev" group. 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